A little early....didn't think Obama would stoop this low, so soon

[BT]

"All sizzle and no steak" is also a personal attack, it's attacking the guy for sizzling AND there's no evidence supplied of the "no steak," just McCain's word that there's no steak.

Not true. One of the the reasons McCain is keeping close, and in some polls amongst likely voters is ahead, is the nagging feeling  among responders that when all is said and done they don't know who Obama is.

This after a well publicized primary season. This after all the coverage of his meteoric rise. This after the boatloads of favorable ink in the MSM and dead tree press.

People are lukewarm to McCain, but he is a known quantity and a safe fallback vote.

The all sizzle no steak label isn't a new one. Bill and Hillary both pointed that out during the primary.

Obama is allowing others to define him. That could be his undoing.

Is Bob Shrum involved in his campaign?

[Plane]

A man of unusual and peculiar sensibilities, David H. Souter came to the Supreme Court as a complete enigma.

http://www.oyez.org/justices/david_h_souter/


Oyez here comes the stealth canadate to dissapoint all of his backers , only this time the enigma is on his way to Executive office from the Senate.


As far as we know he is a perfect Liberal , but he is willing to compromise a lot for the sake of votes , will he remain compromised for the sake of re-election?


Souter has been a let down , Obama might also , but maybe not , what do we know now?

[Michael Tee]

If you want to allege the guy has no ideas, that's one thing.  The "all sizzle and" is a personal attack aimed at Obama's popularity (at least IMHO) and whether it actually is or not, that's how it looks to everyone I know, based on the timing, i.e., coming in the wake of a foreign tour that McSame could never hope to emulate, knowing how much he and his "President" are despised by the people of the rest of the world.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Obama is not a lightweight. He has said what he will do. He addresses healthcare, getting disentangled from Iraq, ending special favors in the tax code for the extremely wealthy. He has a plan.

McCain offers no serious plan for Iraq, will not address healthcare, incorrectly claims that  offshore and ANWAR drilling will lower gasoline prices soon, and basically offers nothing better than Juniuorbushy other than the absence of Cheney and a few more IQ points. Plus, he's ancient, beyond retirement.

He doesn't need the job, and much more important, the job doesn't need him. He got beat pout in the 2000 primaries by the lightest weight candidate of all time. He was personally insulted by the Juniorbushies, and a couple years later, he's hugging said Doofus-In-Chief like his long lost grandson.

There was a time McCain should have run: 2000.  His time is long past. He is now toast. Badly(what's that smell coming from the kitchen?) burned toast.

[sirs]

I have to admit, I've been loving these massive redirectional efforts by our hard core leftists.  The story was on Obama's blatant application of the race card, directly claiming how the GOP was going to try and scare the electorate from voting for him, because of his skin color, and the best the left can do is trying to put it in the ignore box, and claim, without evidence of course, of how widespread McCain and his contintent pull out the race card, and how swell a guy Obama's supposed to be. 

FYI for those leftists, talk show hosts aren't the ones running for office, nor are they connected to the McCain camp.  So the continued grossly obvious misrepresentation efforts, are pretty transparent for all to see.  Just so you know

[Xavier_Onassis]

FYI for those leftists, talk show hosts aren't the ones running for office, nor are they connected to the McCain camp.  So the continued grossly obvious misrepresentation efforts, are pretty transparent for all to see.  Just so you know

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Rush and Hannity and the rest of these clowns are doing what they are paid to do: defend the Oligarchy. They are npot entertainers, they are propagandists.

Just so you know.

It hardly matters to McCain why people vote for him or against Obama. He is desperate. This is his last, futile gasp. After this, there is only the golf course, the old folks' home and Arlington Cemetery. He must prevail, and will do so with as little personal damage as possible.

Every day, Obama's campaign offices are bombarded with racist slurs and death threats, and none of this being reported, but it is being received and noted.


The swiftboaters will float in, like unwelcome turds in a punchbowl, after the boost that Obama gets from his nominating convention.

[Brassmask]

Not up to him is it? If another Osama Bin Laden declaires another war on us Obama will be at war whether he likes or doesn't.


ObL is not another country and can't declare war.

[Michael Tee]

I guess some people have never heard of surrogates.  McCain doesn't have to do the dirty work, there are plenty of his supporters to do it for him.  That's because McCain and his supporters clearly represent what RFK referred to once as "the darker impulses of the American spirit," war, violence, torture and conquest.  Those who support McCain are committed to the darker impulses, and thus they are ready, willing and able to do what it takes, without scruple, fully conscious of the fact that it's better for McCain to keep his own hands clean.

[sirs]

I guess some people have never heard of surrogates.  McCain doesn't have to do the dirty work, there are plenty of his supporters to do it for him. 

How convenient....yet again, lack of facts/proof, is proof positive.

FYI for those leftists, talk show hosts aren't the ones running for office, nor are they connected to the McCain camp.  So the continued grossly obvious misrepresentation efforts, are pretty transparent for all to see.  Just so you know

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Rush and Hannity and the rest of these clowns are doing what they are paid to do: defend the Oligarchy. They are npot entertainers, they are propagandists.

And despite that unsubstantiated outlandish OPINION, still no examples from the McCain camp bringing race into the campaign.  Obama just did, directly.  But we need to ignore that and keep dumping on talk radio and Fox news, right?  Anything to NOT talk about what Obama pulled.  SOP

[Michael Tee]

MT:  <<I guess some people have never heard of surrogates.  McCain doesn't have to do the dirty work, there are plenty of his supporters to do it for him. >>

sirs:  <<How convenient....yet again, lack of facts/proof, is proof positive.>>

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No, it isn't lack of fact or lack of proof that is proof positive.  It is simple common sense which every individual (except, apparently, right-wing extremists) is blessed with.  Why on earth would McCain want to dirty his hands with playing the race card himself or through his campaign staffers, when there are so many of his supporters ready, willing and able to do his work for him?

McCain had nothing to do with the racist attacks on Obama.  Nothing that we will ever be able to prove, anyway.  But the fact remains, that he is the kind of person who attracts these racist sleazeballs to his side, so that they will do what he no longer has to do.  When your surrogates are willing to do it all for you, you don't have to lift a finger and you are able to say "I had nothing to do with it."  But what is it about him that would draw all this racist sleazeball support?

Bottom line, the race card HAS been played, and it was played by the opponents of Obama.  McCain methinks doth clearly protest too much.

[sirs]

Yea, the race card has been played, DIRECTLY BY OBAMA.  Can't say the same about McCain, outside of your invalid, unsubstantiated 7degrees of supporter seperation

[Michael Tee]

Let me explain this to you very simply in strict chronological order:

1.  McSame supporters play the race card against Obama.  Big time.  Numerous examples, some very current, were displayed in this thread.
2.  Obama complains about the underhanded racist attacks.
3.  McCain staffers wail, bitch and moan that Obama has "dealt the race card from the bottom of the deck."

This constitutes DISHONESTY on the part of the MCCAIN CAMPAIGN because the campaign (not the surrogates) accuses Obama of introducing the race issue into the campaign, when it was put there originally by McCain supporters.

Got it?  (no, of course not, you guys NEVER get it)

Fortunately the American public will get it and condemn McCain, through his supporters, of being racist sleazebags.  At least when they vote, they'll  know what each side represents.  Obama, a new approach, change (which maybe he'll deliver on or not, another issue) and McSame, politics as usual, the politics of fear and division.

[sirs]

Let's actually make it even simpler:

McCain...ZIP racist attacks or even references on Obama
Obama....paraphrased; "McCain & company will try to convince you to not vote for me because I'm black"

Race card played, McCain: 0, Obama: big fat 1

[Plane]

Not up to him is it? If another Osama Bin Laden declaires another war on us Obama will be at war whether he likes or doesn't.


ObL is not another country and can't declare war.

I wish you had told him this before he did declare War and started a bombing campaign.


Which is entirely beside the point , Barak Obama will be a war president if he is elected he has no choice about it.

[Brassmask]

Let's actually make it even simpler:

McCain...ZIP racist attacks or even references on Obama
Obama....paraphrased; "McCain & company will try to convince you to not vote for me because I'm black"

Race card played, McCain: 0, Obama: big fat 1

Pretty deep paraphrasing there.  No chance you could post the real comment and see if people can make up their own minds?