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John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« on: August 11, 2008, 10:35:59 AM »


Wolfson: Edwards' Cover-up Cost Clinton the Nomination
Aides Say She Would Have Won Iowa if Edwards Affair was Exposed
By BRIAN ROSS and JAKE TAPPER
August 11, 2008 

Sen. Hillary Clinton would be the Democratic presidential nominee if John Edwards had been caught in his lie about an extramarital affair and forced out of the race last year, insists a top Clinton campaign aide, making a charge that could exacerbate previously existing tensions between the camps of Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama.


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"I believe we would have won Iowa, and Clinton today would therefore have been the nominee," former Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson told ABC News.com.

Clinton finished third in the Iowa caucuses barely behind Edwards in second place and Obama in first. The momentum of the insurgent Obama camaign beating two better-known candidates -- not to mention an African-american winning in sucn an overwhelmingly white state -- changed the dynamics of the race forever.

Obama won 37.6 per cent of the vote. Edwards won 29.7 per cent and Clinton won 29.5 per cent, according to results posted by the Iowa Democratic Party.

"Our voters and Edwards' voters were the same people," Wolfson said the Clinton polls showed. "They were older, pro-union. Not all, but maybe two-thirds of them would have been for us and we would have barely beaten Obama."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5553013&page=1
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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2008, 10:39:55 AM »
So what's Clinton want to do about it now?

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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 05:15:04 PM »


Wolfson: Edwards' Cover-up Cost Clinton the Nomination
Aides Say She Would Have Won Iowa if Edwards Affair was Exposed
By BRIAN ROSS and JAKE TAPPER
August 11, 2008 

Sen. Hillary Clinton would be the Democratic presidential nominee if John Edwards had been caught in his lie about an extramarital affair and forced out of the race last year, insists a top Clinton campaign aide, making a charge that could exacerbate previously existing tensions between the camps of Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama.


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"I believe we would have won Iowa, and Clinton today would therefore have been the nominee," former Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson told ABC News.com.

Clinton finished third in the Iowa caucuses barely behind Edwards in second place and Obama in first. The momentum of the insurgent Obama camaign beating two better-known candidates -- not to mention an African-american winning in sucn an overwhelmingly white state -- changed the dynamics of the race forever.

Obama won 37.6 per cent of the vote. Edwards won 29.7 per cent and Clinton won 29.5 per cent, according to results posted by the Iowa Democratic Party.

"Our voters and Edwards' voters were the same people," Wolfson said the Clinton polls showed. "They were older, pro-union. Not all, but maybe two-thirds of them would have been for us and we would have barely beaten Obama."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5553013&page=1


Well thank goodness , if there is anyone less desireable than BHO for Pres , it has to be HRC , though Edwards is no prize either.

On the other hand Rush frequently commented that HRC was more beatable , if that is so then Edwards might have made a Dem victory more likely.

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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2008, 06:19:04 PM »
So what's Clinton want to do about it now?

Rip his nuts off!

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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2008, 09:05:14 PM »
Edwards did not cost Hillary the nomination. Hillary cost Hillary the nomination. Blaming Edwards is childish.
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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2008, 09:29:12 PM »
Edwards did not cost Hillary the nomination. Hillary cost Hillary the nomination. Blaming Edwards is childish.

Exactly.

Now watch all this gnashing of teeth on the right over the Edwards Affair dry up when talking heads start to hear too much talk of McCain's affairs.

Let's not forget that Newt Gingrich was the KING of affairs having had at least TWO

Newt Gingrich has been married three times. He married Jackie Battley, his former high school geometry teacher, when he was 19 years old (she was seven years his senior at 26 years old).[6][7] After an alleged affair in 1977 with Ann Manning, then the wife of a West Georgia professor, he sought a divorce from Battley. That was finalized in 1981. Gingrich refused to pay both alimony and child support. The local First Baptist church took up collections for support of Jackie and their children.[8] In 1981, Gingrich wed Marianne Ginther,[9] to whom he remained married until 2000, the same year Gingrich had an affair with a then 33-year-old Congressional staffer, Callista Bisek. He and Bisek were married in 2000 and currently reside in Virginia. Gingrich has two daughters, Kathy and Jackie from his marriage to Jackie Battley, two sons-in-law and two grandchildren.[10]

All this talk is just gossip and scandal. 

Edwards is a POS who should be brushed into the dustbin of history.



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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2008, 11:09:32 PM »
What in the world does Edward's Affair have to do with Gingrich?


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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 12:49:33 AM »
What in the world does Edward's Affair have to do with Gingrich?



Edwards next job is as a commentator on a cable news channel.

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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2008, 01:30:28 AM »
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Edwards next job is as a commentator on a cable news channel.

Dang. I thought he was going to do financial planning for the poor.


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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2008, 01:46:03 AM »
Maybe this?
 
The Huffington Post
AUGUST 12, 2008


SHELLEY LEWIS
Newt Gingrich has always been a man with a plan, whether as a high school student planning to marry Miss Battley, his geometry teacher (which he did--she's the one he later dumped while she was recovering from cancer), or as a college student plotting new ways to get deferments to avoid Vietnam, or as the architect of the Contract With America. Of course, that one ended rather badly for him in the Republican debacle of 1998, when he lost the Speakership and went home to reinvent himself and dump his second wife, Marianne.

Now Newt's back, with a plan to become president almost by magic. Here's what he told Fortune magazine:

"I am not 'running' for president. I am seeking to create a movement to win the future by offering a series of solutions so compelling that if the American people say I have to be president, it will happen."

Wow. I'm picturing David Blaine, only chubbier, older and even more full of himself. So...if he's not running, but he's waiting for a sign that the American people want him to be president, what do we do, text message our votes, like on American Idol, or something?

If only. Just to hedge his bets, Newt's all over Iowa and New Hampshire, and he's creating a 527 group that he hopes will be a campaign cash cow, should he ever deign to campaign. He is a guy with big ideas. He's also a guy with a big past--and not just the three marriages. You can read all about Newt in Naked Republicans, a Full-frontal Exposure of Right-Wing Hypocrisy and Greed, but for starters, we can't forget the ethics issues, the creation of the sleazy, bullying Republican revolving-door lobbyist system now known as the K street project, and the pouty government shutdown he orchestrated in a losing battle with Bill Clinton, just to name a few career highlights.

And speaking of pouty, after the Allen-Webb campaign, who can forget that Gingrich is the co-author of many books, like "1945," which contains this steamy passage:

Suddenly the pouting sex kitten gave way to Diana the Huntress. She rolled onto to him and somehow was sitting athwart his chest, her knees pinning his shoulders. 'Tell me, or I will make you do terrible things,' she hissed.

'Terrible things' like writing really bad historical novels, presumably. Come to think of it, he writes historical fiction, and he's trying to fictionalize his history.

The mainstream media have short attention spans and even shorter memories, so Newt will get more than his share of uncritical free media as he launches his magical mystery tour.

Like the new Nixon in 1968, he's trying to be the new Newt, but he's not going to be able to shake off the old Newt as easily as he did his ex-wives.

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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 01:55:00 AM »
Doubtful, he'll ever run for President. He is in feather his nest mode.


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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 08:32:45 PM »
What in the world does Edward's Affair have to do with Gingrich?



What does Edward's affair have to do with anything?

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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2008, 09:08:21 PM »

Let's not forget that Newt Gingrich was the KING of affairs having had at least TWO




Two makes one king .

Bill Clinton must be the solar system emperor.

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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2008, 09:33:21 PM »
"What does Edward's affair have to do with anything?"

if the man will lie and cheat on his own family
if the man will lie and cheat on the mother (with cancer) of his own children
if the man is that reckless
then his judgement plays a part of an evaluation voters make about his fitness as an elected official
it does matter
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Re: John Edwards Lies & Coverup cost Hillary the nomination!
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2008, 09:45:49 PM »
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What does Edward's affair have to do with anything?

Apparently you thought it shocking as displayed by your rush to compare him to Gingrich.

Either what Gingrich and Edwards did is morally reprehensible or Edwards is a piker compared to Gingrich.

You can't have it both ways.