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Brassmask

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Re: Who can move and shake this nation
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2008, 06:41:06 PM »
Under whose administration will being out of work for three years become easy times?

A moot point.

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Re: Who can move and shake this nation
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2008, 06:42:18 PM »
<<Enemys that were intimidated by Eisenhours reputation , were not so shy with Kennedy. >>

Really?  The Viet Minh were so intimidated by Eisenhower's reputation that they rolled right over Dienbienphu.  And the U.S.S.R. was so intimidated that it rolled right over Budapest despite all the promises of assistance that were pouring out of "Radio Free Europe."  And in 1959, Castro's Revolutionary forces came down from the hills and threw the U.S.'s hand-picked puppet leader, Fulgencio Batista, out of the country and shot all of his torturers and thugs that they could get their hands on.  And in the following year, the Russians shot Francis Gary Powers' U2 out of the Russian skies.  Yep, ol' Ike sure had them Russkies intimidated alright. 

I notice though that when Kennedy proposed a deal to get the Russian nukes out of Cuba, the Russians went along with it, even if the Cubans didn't.

Was your post just another history lesson from the imaginary alternative universe of the conservative right?  Must have been.

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Re: Who can move and shake this nation
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2008, 06:48:10 PM »
Wanna have some fun Brass?

Reply to your post the way i would. Start with some of your over the top rhetoric that i would pounce on immediately, then wrap it up with some of the subjective stuff i would take issue with.

I'll be back in an hour or so to see how you did.

I'm not that good.

I'll let you speak for yourself.


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Re: Who can move and shake this nation
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2008, 08:27:41 PM »
And next thing you know , enemys all over the place are at war with us.

Enemys that were intimidated by Eisenhours reputation , were not so shy with Kennedy.

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Fidel started is revolution during the Eisenhower years, and took power on Jan 1, 1959. I hardly think Castro wanted anything from the US otherthan to be left the F**K aone. But the US oligarchy did not want to give up their profits and offshore hidey-holes, so he appealed to he Russians. It made perfect sense, and he woud have done this if Eisenhower, or Stevenson o Nixon or Kennedy was president.

The US ois a warlike country. It's business interests like to found monopolies whever they can, cozy up to tyrants and go screaming to their government if the people in the tyrannical country seem to be gaining the upper hand.

Sweden also has major business scattered all over the planet, even a greater share of Sweden's business is overseas. Saab Scania, Volvo, Erikso are everywhere. And yet, and yet, Sweden fought its last war in the early 1700's.

There is a lesson in this: the US Armed Forces do not need to be an instrument of US foreign policy anymore than the Swedish Armed Forces.

Al Qaeda in Afghanistan was a situation in which a series of countries banded together for a common cause. Iraq clearly was not.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2008, 08:52:52 PM by Xavier_Onassis »
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Re: Who can move and shake this nation
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2008, 01:30:25 AM »
Under whose administration will being out of work for three years become easy times?

A moot point.


Yes but it is your point.