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Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« on: August 31, 2008, 11:50:24 PM »
Sunday, August 31, 2008
Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 5:47 PM
The lefty blogosphere hasn't stopped perpetuating the rumor Sarah Palin "faked" her last pregnancy and are now humiliating her daughter Bristol on the blatantly incorrect suspicion she is the real mother of baby Trig.

"Sarah Palin is NOT the Mother" is the title of this DailyKos blog that accuses Bristol, a completely fit looking adolescent teen, of having a "baby bump" in a photo they allege was taken March 9th of this year.

"Sarah, I'm calling you a liar" wrote blogger ArcXIX. "And not even a good one. Trig Paxson Van Palin is not your son. He is your grandson. The sooner you come forward with this revelation to the public, the better. "

Not only is the DailyKos disgustingly inspecting Bristol's midriff with all the fervor of LA paparrazzi examining J-Lo's or Jennifer Aniston's washboard stomachs for evidence of a "bump" DailyKos is is wrong on when the photo was taken. It was taken, and published, by the Anchorage Daily News in 2006. Baby Trig, a Down's Syndrome child, was born on April 18, 2008. That's a long time for a teen girl to be carrying a "bump" which looks nothing more than the curve of a tight sweater.

Shorly after Palin was announced McCain's VP, bloggers at the Kos started ginning up the rumor Palin faked her pregnancy, allegedly to cover for an illegitimate grandchiled, because she looked so fit and trim in a photo taken a few months before giving birth.

This is only the latest in outrageoues attacks against Palin's mothering ability.  Fox News anchor Alan Colmes, of Hannity & Colmes, titled a recent post on his blog "LiberalLand" "Did Palin Take Proper PreNatal Care" that wondered if she somehow was at fault for having a disabled child. Colmes took down the post after being attacked by the blog Wizbang and later reposted a screenshot of the blog to prove he "wasn't running away from what I posted."



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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2008, 11:55:48 PM »
Call it Son of Swiftboat.

When the gloves come off, they're off.

When the basic rules of decency are broken by one side, they can't be put together again so easily.  Partisans figure, they swiftboated a much-decorated combat veteran who risked his life for his country, I guess nothing's sacred any more.  Certainly not Palin, certainly not Trig.

I think the abysmal lowering of all standards from the treatment of prisoners to simple campaigning by the Republicans will have lasting repercussions.  It was easy to drag your country right into the gutter.  It won't be so easy to drag it out.

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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2008, 11:58:22 PM »
That is a sad commentary on our times.




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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2008, 11:59:30 PM »
Call it Son of Swiftboat.

When the gloves come off, they're off.

When the basic rules of decency are broken by one side, they can't be put together again so easily.  Partisans figure, they swiftboated a much-decorated combat veteran who risked his life for his country, I guess nothing's sacred any more.  Certainly not Palin, certainly not Trig.

I think the abysmal lowering of all standards from the treatment of prisoners to simple campaigning by the Republicans will have lasting repercussions.  It was easy to drag your country right into the gutter.  It won't be so easy to drag it out.

Scumbags come from all countries. Daily Kos has many, Iraq had Saddam, Then there is Putin, and of course Canada has Michael Tee.

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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2008, 12:11:13 AM »
Call it Son of Swiftboat.

When the gloves come off, they're off.

When the basic rules of decency are broken by one side, they can't be put together again so easily.  Partisans figure, they swiftboated a much-decorated combat veteran who risked his life for his country, I guess nothing's sacred any more.  Certainly not Palin, certainly not Trig.

I think the abysmal lowering of all standards from the treatment of prisoners to simple campaigning by the Republicans will have lasting repercussions.  It was easy to drag your country right into the gutter.  It won't be so easy to drag it out.
"a much-decorated combat veteran" ?
That is "self confessed war criminal "to you sir.


This seems remarkably one sided.

It also seems remarkably prone to backfire.

Lets tell the Kossacks that touching their tongues to Canadian Railroad tracks early in November will magically give them the gift of glib so well that they can persuede the credulous of anything.

Perhaps they would beleive that.

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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2008, 12:14:34 AM »
<<Scumbags come from all countries. Daily Kos has many, Iraq had Saddam, Then there is Putin, and of course Canada has Michael Tee.>>

Can't you ever discuss the issues?  Are you THAT morally and intellectually bankrupt?

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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2008, 12:25:25 AM »
<<"a much-decorated combat veteran" ?
<<That is "self confessed war criminal "to you sir.>>

I see him as a self-confessed war criminal.  But he is not perceived in the MSM through my eyes, unfortunately.  In the eyes of the MSM, he is what he pretends to be, a "much-decorated combat veteran."

When the public sees a swiftboat attack on Kerry, they don't see a war criminal being attacked.  They see a decorated combat veteran.  Those who attack him don't see a war criminal either, for they themselves are also war criminals.

What the public was taught was to revere vets who had fought and bled for their country.
What the public saw was a man who had fought and bled for his country being openly, publicly attacked on his military record as a fake hero.  And, as far as I'm aware, it was a first.  It really crossed a line.

<<This seems remarkably one sided.>>

Well, if it's really two-sided, you should be able to provide a ready example of the Democrats crossing a line like that as well.

<<It also seems remarkably prone to backfire.>>

That's the problem - - people thought Swiftboating would backfire.  But it worked.

<<Lets tell the Kossacks that touching their tongues to Canadian Railroad tracks early in November will magically give them the gift of glib so well that they can persuede the credulous of anything.>>

Something I always wondered was whether Swiftboating worked because people believed the Swiftboaters' accusations or because even if they didn't, the accusations took some of the lustre off Kerry's image.  A person's only a public hero if the crowds say he's a hero.  Once a few people in the crowd throw shit, he's not a hero any more, he's just a guy with shit on his uniform.  Heroes don't have shit on their uniforms.  The image is ruined.  Even if, in the long run, the shit won't stick.  That's the magic of Swiftboating.

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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2008, 12:26:20 AM »
<<Scumbags come from all countries. Daily Kos has many, Iraq had Saddam, Then there is Putin, and of course Canada has Michael Tee.>>

Can't you ever discuss the issues?  Are you THAT morally and intellectually bankrupt?

What is there to discuss?

ANYONE that thinks going after Palins daughter is OK is mentally ill. The only kind of response to this thread is basically -- wow how sad that someone felt like picking on a couple of innocent children.

What I'm saying is this isn't debatable. It's evil....

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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2008, 12:28:44 AM »

Something I always wondered was whether Swiftboating worked because people believed the Swiftboaters' accusations or because even if they didn't, the accusations took some of the lustre off Kerry's image.  A person's only a public hero if the crowds say he's a hero.  Once a few people in the crowd throw shit, he's not a hero any more, he's just a guy with shit on his uniform.  Heroes don't have shit on their uniforms.  The image is ruined.  Even if, in the long run, the shit won't stick.  That's the magic of Swiftboating.

Hahahahahahaha!

It is so much more simple than that!

Kerry's credibility as a war hero depended on being a swiftboat veteran himself.

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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2008, 12:32:30 AM »
ANYONE that thinks going after Palins daughter is OK is mentally ill. The only kind of response to this thread is basically -- wow how sad that someone felt like picking on a couple of innocent children.

What I'm saying is this isn't debatable. It's evil....

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We're all agreed on that.  The issue is how did the country come to a point where that kind of tactic is even possible.  My suggestion was that it started with Swiftboating, which really crossed a line that had never been crossed before.

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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2008, 12:38:39 AM »
Hahahahahahaha!

It is so much more simple than that!

Kerry's credibility as a war hero depended on being a swiftboat veteran himself.

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No, actually, it didn't.  It depended on the medals - - the three Purple Hearts and the Silver Star, IIRC.
The credibility came from being wounded three times - - even if the wound was a nick on the skin, it meant that the guy had put his ass in the line of fire.  That it happened in a Swiftboat or a helicopter or a dugout was just incidental.

When they attacked the medals, they were saying that the wounds were bogus and by extension that he had never really put his ass on the line.

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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2008, 12:40:37 AM »
ANYONE that thinks going after Palins daughter is OK is mentally ill. The only kind of response to this thread is basically -- wow how sad that someone felt like picking on a couple of innocent children.

What I'm saying is this isn't debatable. It's evil....

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We're all agreed on that.  The issue is how did the country come to a point where that kind of tactic is even possible.  My suggestion was that it started with Swiftboating, which really crossed a line that had never been crossed before.

I thought that Swiftboat deal was about attacking John Kerry by fellow serviceman not against children. If people have anger issues over Swiftboating then they need some help - - that is in the past. The two don't tie in because bad behavior doesn't excuse bad behavior against innocent children.


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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2008, 12:40:44 AM »
ANYONE that thinks going after Palins daughter is OK is mentally ill. The only kind of response to this thread is basically -- wow how sad that someone felt like picking on a couple of innocent children.

What I'm saying is this isn't debatable. It's evil....

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We're all agreed on that.&nbsp; The issue is how did the country come to a point where that kind of tactic is even possible.&nbsp; My suggestion was that it started with Swiftboating, which really crossed a line that had never been crossed before.


What ?

How so?

Have you any idea what Andrew Jackson was accused of?

John Kerry set himself up no worse than Gary Hart.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Hart
or grover Cleveland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Cleveland


Slime was not invented yesterday , John Kerry stepped up to the Podium at the nomination and saluted sying "reporting for duty" , this is known as leading with your chin.

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Re: Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's Daughter
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2008, 12:45:43 AM »
Hahahahahahaha!

It is so much more simple than that!

Kerry's credibility as a war hero depended on being a swiftboat veteran himself.

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No, actually, it didn't.  It depended on the medals - - the three Purple Hearts and the Silver Star, IIRC.
The credibility came from being wounded three times - - even if the wound was a nick on the skin, it meant that the guy had put his ass in the line of fire.  That it happened in a Swiftboat or a helicopter or a dugout was just incidental.

When they attacked the medals, they were saying that the wounds were bogus and by extension that he had never really put his ass on the line.

And he won all of those meadals as a Swift Boat commander. One depends on the other .

His accusers were also meadal winners and swiftboat veterans no less than he.

So his supporters could not say do not beleive swift boat veterans , ha, but some of them did.

Some of their accusations did not pan out as credible , but some of them did .

Since John Kerry was caught in a few lies , his credibility was harmed much more than anyone of his accusers , we were considering Kerry for the Presidency , his accusers not so.

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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2008, 12:52:36 AM »
I don't think, plane, that you got my point.   It wasn't that the Republicans invented slime.

The point of my post was not that politicians slime one another.  That's a given.  The point of the post was that a line had been crossed.  Given the general reverence accorded to the military in U.S. society, an attack on a military man's martial valour is a more serious thing than an attack on a man's marital fidelity.

In fact plenty of politicians have been accused of screwing around, stealing money, taking bribes, etc. 

 Attacking the medals of a veteran wounded in the service of his country, I contended, was a new low, at least in recent (20th Century to present) American history.