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Michael Tee

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Re: I told you that (unlike you RWers) Big O could walk & chew gum at the same t
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2008, 02:07:35 AM »
Ah, you are right.  He apparently came to community organizing from Columbia to some jobs in New York to Chicago to community organize and then to law school.

Still, same principle - - a Columbia University grad could probably have earned more in the corporate world than he could as a community organizer.

And I'm still correct in that the people he worked with in community organizing thought the world of him.

He did a lot more for society's underclass than Bush and Cheney combined.  Those selfish greedheads never gave them a thought, neither did McCain or Palin.  Compared to the whole Republican pantheon, he's Mother Teresa.

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You think Mother Theresa would make a good President, if she were still alive , that is?

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Re: I told you that (unlike you RWers) Big O could walk & chew gum at the same t
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2008, 02:29:22 AM »
<<You think Mother Theresa would make a good President, if she were still alive , that is?>>

How could a Catholic be a good President?  Wouldn't she take her orders from the Pope?  But why ask me?  Why not go to McCain's former pastor friend, Rev. Hagee?  He'll tell ya all about Catholics and he's a solid Republican too.

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How could a Catholic be a good President?

So Kennedy wasn't a good president?

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Re: I told you that (unlike you RWers) Big O could walk & chew gum at the same t
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2008, 03:09:27 AM »
<<So Kennedy wasn't a good president?>>

I forgot.  You don't get irony.  Sorry 'bout that.

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Not when you consider I already know the "blank screen" has an impressive academic record, fantastic judgment and political courage and chose to work as a Chicago community organizer when he could have found a prestigious job paying six-digit salary fresh out of law school.

Then you don't know much about your guy at all.

He quit community organizing to go to law school, because that was the path to power.



Um, my understanding is that he went to community organizing from law school.

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Obama is the first African American to be nominated by a major political party for president.[1] A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barak_Obama

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Re: I told you that (unlike you RWers) Big O could walk & chew gum at the same t
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2008, 09:12:37 AM »
Um, my understanding is that he went to community organizing from law school.

"Then you don't know much about your guy at all."
Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. (Benjamin Franklin)

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After graduating from Columbia University in 1983 with a major in political science, Obama worked as a financial consultant in New York City. But he was bored?and drawn to public service. In 1985, he moved to Chicago to work with local churches organizing job training and other programs for poor and working-class residents of Altgeld Gardens, a public housing project where 5,300 African-Americans tried to survive amid shuttered steel mills, a nearby landfill, a putrid sewage treatment plant, and a pervasive feeling that the white establishment of Chicago would never give them a fair shake.

Jerry Kellman, a social activist who recruited Obama, recalls, "He was very bright, very articulate, very personable, and very idealistic," inspired by civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.'s philosophy of nonviolence. Kellman offered Obama a job at the annual salary of $10,000, and he threw in $2,000 so Obama could buy a ramshackle car to get around.

Obama was a stranger to the area but caught on quickly by showing humility and a strong work ethic. "We knew what was wrong in the community but we didn't know how to get something done about it," recalls Yvonne Lloyd, 78, who worked with Obama. Obama insisted on "staying in the background while he empowered us." By Obama's own admission, there were few big victories. But whether it was getting the city to fill potholes, provide summer jobs, or remove asbestos from the apartments or persuading the apartment managers to repair toilets, pipes, and ceilings, Obama encouraged residents to come up with their own priorities with the gentle admonition: "It's your community."

Newcomer. David Kindler, a colleague at the time, said the lanky newcomer with the funny name understood that a community organizer is a combination of educator, confessor-priest, social activist, motivational expert, mediator, and campaign leader. To accomplish his mission, Obama spent hours with Altgeld residents one on one, learning their problems and their dreams, and he resisted taking credit for success, preferring to give it to individuals in the community.

Obama lived a few miles away in a modest Hyde Park apartment, but he quickly became part of "the Gardens" community. He played pickup basketball. He walked from house to house to discuss what needed fixing. Wearing his trademark outfit of neatly pressed slacks and button-down shirts with no tie, he spent many hours meeting in kitchens, parlors, and churches.

Many of the older women took a liking to him. They fed him cookies, invited him for dinner, and introduced him to their friends?and their marriage-minded daughters. "I called him my little skinny boy," says Lloyd. "He was so thin, we wanted to fatten him up, but we couldn't do it."

Some critics say that if he wins the presidency, the partisan divisions and rancor of Washington would quickly overwhelm him. But his wife, also a lawyer, says Altgeld gave him the skills to bring Washington's warring factions together. "Barack is not one of those people who fight for the sake of fighting," says Michelle Obama. He's "willing to do it when it's necessary," but he knows "you have to keep the door open" to deal with the other side.

Perhaps his most confrontational effort was to pressure city authorities to remove asbestos from the apartments in 1986. When the on-site manager didn't take action, Obama nudged the residents into confronting city housing officials in two angry public meetings downtown. These generated "a victory of sorts," Obama said later, as workers soon began sealing the asbestos in the buildings. But the project gradually ran out of steam and money. In fact, some tenants still have asbestos in their homes, according to current resident Linda Randle, 53, who worked with Obama in the '86 anti-asbestos campaign.

Faced with such frustrations, after three years in Chicago, Obama decided to apply his skills in the wider world. He entered Harvard Law School in 1988, became the first African-American president of Harvard Law Review in 1990, and earned his law degree in 1991. He returned to Chicago to work as a civil rights lawyer and teach at the University of Chicago Law School. He eventually won a seat in the Illinois State Senate and was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070826/3obama.htm

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Faced with such frustrations, after three years in Chicago, Obama decided to apply his skills in the wider world. He entered Harvard Law School in 1988, became the first African-American president of Harvard Law Review in 1990, and earned his law degree in 1991. He returned to Chicago to work as a civil rights lawyer and teach at the University of Chicago Law School. He eventually won a seat in the Illinois State Senate and was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2004.

Ah, I see how I got it confused.  He was a community organizer prior to going to Harvard Law.  My mistake.

I got it confused with the fact that after going to Harvard Law, he didn't go to Wall Street but instead returned to Chicago to work as a civil rights lawyer and to teach.

I didn't have the facts straight but he did devote himself to his community rather than selling out, making a shitpot of money and then assuaging his guilt by tithing every week.

My bad.

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"...But whether it was getting the city to fill potholes,..."


He actually got potholes filled ?

In run down neighborhoods of a big city?

I have to say , that is impressive , I know of some pot holes in Macon older than I am.

This little essay gives me a better idea of what his job as a Community Organiser was like , and it doesn't look bad .

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I didn't have the facts straight but he did devote himself to his community rather than selling out, making a shitpot of money and then assuaging his guilt by tithing every week.

He worked in the civil rights division of a law firm. The same law firm whose biggest client was Commonweath Edison, whose president emeritus was Thomas Ayers, father of Mikey's hero William Ayers of Weatherman fame.

I doubt Obama was bringing home public defender wages. And the connections at the firm got him that professorship at the University of Chicago.