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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2008, 01:48:46 PM »
Actually this started with y'all hounding Bill to the gates of hell for accepting a blow job
Which is of course not true ,not even a little bit.

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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2008, 01:53:37 PM »
Truman had been a US Senator, who, on his own initiative, drove to various army bases and revealed major incompetence and graft.

I don't see how this differs from Palin's work on the Ethics Committee
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Because it resulted in MILLIONS not being misspent after this was revealed.
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Jimmy Carter was the governor of a real state (one that actually has to tax its citizens, that actually HAS a decent number of citizens, who came up with an extensive plan for zero-based budgeting.

Alaska is a real state with it's own set of problems, population is irrelevant, and Palin was known for cutting budgets.
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Yes, it does, but yes population is very relevant, and Palin would have been a success if she had told McCain no, she was elected to do a job by her people and she was going to have to do it as she promised in lieu of running off campaign.

Alaska may have real problems, but the Alaskan people do not have to pay taxes to support the state, as the oil pays for everything, and also sends an annual check to the people as well.

Georgia has no huge pile of money flowing in that pays for the entire cost of government, and a population small enough to send over $1000 to each man, woman and child in the State. That is why I said it was not a real state.  Because it lacks the singular largest problem that all the other 49 states have.


Surely you can see the difference.

Surely you can see that Palin is running out on her obligations as well.
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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2008, 01:57:41 PM »
>>Which is of course not true ,not even a little bit.<<

But there it is.

It's the root of their psychosis. Every once in a while someone will let it slip that it's all about their support for the reprobate Clinton. It fuels the hatred for Bush, Palin and Republicans. It's not logical, nor is rational. It's what gets them out of bed every morning. Hate. Revenge. All for a serial adulterer and rapist.

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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2008, 02:08:03 PM »
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but yes population is very relevant,

Why. All population does is increase the number of clients. Services are scalable.

And Alaska collects taxes:


Taxes
Sales & Use Tax
Alcoholic Beverages 17.1 18.5 18.5
Tobacco Products ? Cigarettes 35.3 36.5 36.5
Tobacco Products ? Other 8.5 8.9 9.5
Insurance Premium 46.5 48.1 48.5
Electric and Telephone Cooperative 0.2 0.2 0.2
Motor Fuel 39.2 39.4 39.8
Vehicle Rental 8.0 8.2 8.5
Tire Fee 1.5 1.5 1.5
Subtotal Sales & Use Tax 156.3 161.3 163.0
Subtotal Corporate Income Tax 176.9 139.4 129.1
Fish Tax
Fisheries Business 17.1 18.0 18.6
Fishery Resource Landing 5.3 5.6 5.8
Subtotal Fish Tax 22.4 23.6 24.4
Other Tax
Mining 79.1 79.8 71.0
Estate 0.1 0.0 0.0
Gaming 2.5 2.5 2.5
Subtotal Other Tax 81.7 82.3 73.5
Subtotal Taxes 437.3 406.6 390.0

http://www.tax.state.ak.us/sourcesbook/index.asp

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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2008, 02:14:12 PM »
Why. All population does is increase the number of clients. Services are scalable.

And Alaska collects taxes:

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Oil royalties are not scalable, and is where Alaska gets most of what is used to run the state.

If the state gets oil royalties worth $1200 per citizen, and then you double the number of citizens, you will now have only $600 per citizen.

This is simple arithmetic.

Observe that there is no sales tax on most goods and services.
There is no tax on income or residential property collected by the state.

Face it, running Alaska is a LOT easier than running Georgia.

Palin had a far easier job than Carter, and did it for only 2 years. Carter served for all the time for which he was elected.

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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2008, 02:19:51 PM »
Why. All population does is increase the number of clients. Services are scalable.

And Alaska collects taxes:

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Oil royalties are not scalable, and is where Alaska gets most of what is used to run the state.

If the state gets oil royalties worth $1200 per citizen, and then you double the number of citizens, you will now have only $600 per citizen.

This is simple arithmetic.

Observe that there is no sales tax on most goods and services.
There is no tax on income or residential property collected by the state.

Face it, running Alaska is a LOT easier than running Georgia.

Palin had a far easier job than Carter, and did it for only 2 years. Carter served for all the time for which he was elected.



You would have been happyer with Sonny Perdue as Veep?

He isn't bad but he isn't up to Palins level of charm .

Also Palin has made the news a few times fighting corruption , this fits the climate of the nation right now.

As for experience level , if experience level is indeed the most critical feature of a canadate , why would anyone prefer BHO to JSM? Not only is McCin famous for going against the grain ,  he has been doing so as long as BHO has been alive.

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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2008, 02:51:11 PM »
I have no idea who Sonny Perdue is. Does he raise chickens?

Palin has appeared before the country about three times. I've seen LOTS more charming people than her.

McCain's maverick reputation is a promo job. He's not any sort of maverick.

Paslin should have stuck with the job she was elected to. Sh will have little power as VP and is not ready to be president in any way. Again, a BA from three colleges is not the same thing as a postgrad degree from Harvard.

Remember she was FOR the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it, and THE MONEY WAS NOT RETURNED.
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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2008, 03:01:32 PM »
I have no idea who Sonny Perdue is. Does he raise chickens?

Palin has appeared before the country about three times. I've seen LOTS more charming people than her.

McCain's maverick reputation is a promo job. He's not any sort of maverick.

Paslin should have stuck with the job she was elected to. Sh will have little power as VP and is not ready to be president in any way. Again, a BA from three colleges is not the same thing as a postgrad degree from Harvard.

Remember she was FOR the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it, and THE MONEY WAS NOT RETURNED.


Sonny Perdue is the Govenor of Georgia , you know ,the real state.

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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2008, 03:01:32 PM »
I have no idea who Sonny Perdue is.

You don't know who the governor of a neighboring state is?
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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2008, 03:08:01 PM »
Actually this started with y'all hounding Bill to the gates of hell for accepting a blow job
Which is of course not true ,not even a little bit.

Why not? Before the RW kooks looked for anything and only got a blow job to persecute(with a little entrapment in between) American politics wasnt as polarized as it is today in any recent memory.FDR ,Eisenhower , Kennedy and even Bush Sr were known to have had affairs and mistresses but no one brought it up or fear that they too would be exposed. Well , guess what your RW nutcases broughtit up via Starr and guess what ?. Y'all were exposed for sex AND hypocracy.

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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2008, 03:49:36 PM »
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FDR ,Eisenhower , Kennedy and even Bush Sr were known to have had affairs

None of these folks lied under oath is a sexual harrasment hearing.

Please keep it honest.


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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2008, 03:51:52 PM »
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Oil royalties are not scalable, and is where Alaska gets most of what is used to run the state.

If the state gets oil royalties worth $1200 per citizen, and then you double the number of citizens, you will now have only $600 per citizen.

This is simple arithmetic.

Observe that there is no sales tax on most goods and services.
There is no tax on income or residential property collected by the state.

Face it, running Alaska is a LOT easier than running Georgia.

Palin had a far easier job than Carter, and did it for only 2 years. Carter served for all the time for which he was elected.

Oil revenues are also not perpetual. Aaska charged taxes before the North Slope, during the North Slope, and will charge taxes after the North Slope.

Your point about taxes is silly.




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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2008, 04:08:01 PM »
Oil revenues are also not perpetual. Alaska charged taxes before the North Slope, during the North Slope, and will charge taxes after the North Slope.

Your point about taxes is silly.


THey may not be perpetual;, but gthey are NOW, and I was also taliking about the NOWZ governor of Alaska, the one who was elected to clean up corruption and is now not cleaning up anything. THat is NOT SILLY. It is a very valid point.

Palin even voted an increase in payments to citizens.

Giving people free money tends to make you popular.

The point is that Palin in Alaska had a much easier job for a much shorter time than Carter did as governor of Georgia. You are dodging the question here again and again.
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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2008, 04:11:06 PM »
Palin even voted an increase in payments to citizens.

How does a governor "vote an increase"?
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Re: Boat Anchorism Coming on Hard
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2008, 04:17:46 PM »
andthe larger point is not matter the revenue source the revenue outflows have to be allocated and budgetted. And that is the part that is hard.

She is a governor, before that she was a mayor, before that she was a councilwoman. Her government experience stacks up well against Carter and Obama

Carter was a state rep and then a Governor. Obama was a stae rep and then Senator.

Carter had little foreign policy experience, his UN Ambassador, Andy Young had less.

Obama has little foreign policy experience.

I think this focus on Palin is silly because it also points out Obama's deficits.

And he is the head of your ticket.

McCain trumps Obama in foreign policy experience. That is what you need to worry about.