Posturing as Rescuers...Uncle Sam's Day of Reckoning is At Hand

[Amianthus]

While threatening an entire country is possible, it is a lot easier just to bribe that one guy that sets the meters at the pipeline or at the well header.

Actually, you have to bribe the people who build the tankers and tank trucks to falsify their capacities.

[Michael Tee]

<<All the while no proof or evidence of said strings or gun.  But hey, it sure sounds good.  Maybe Hollywood can work something out>>

Sometimes the quality of debate in here becomes positively surrealistic.  We know that there are 155,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, sure, but where is the EVIDENCE that any of them actually are carrying GUNS?

This has gotta rank right up there with "This country was founded on conservative principles."

Gotta love it.  And if anyone of you were wondering where the Sarah Palin votes would come from, there you have it.

[sirs]

And of coruse Tee will now provide us the URL's that demonstrate how the U.S. is pointing its guns at the current Iraqi Government vs the insurgents & terrorists.  Oh wait....lemme guess, it's done out of sight, demonstrating again how diablocally clever Bush is.  Oh wait, Bush is too incompotent to take charge of the oil with its guns, that was their primary purpose to begin with.  Oh wait, it's still being run as a puppet government, where Bush tells the Iraqi government when to jump & how high.  Oh wait, this circular nonsense is for those inflicted with BDS

[Michael Tee]

You gotta be careful, sirs, you'll get dizzy running in all those self-created circles.  The theory is really a lot simpler than you pretend it is:  Invade the country, destroy its Socialist constitution, "elect" a bunch of collaborators in "democratic" elections and leave when you've installed a puppet government that will do as you wish it to do.

The model is there for all to see from the First World War, as performed by the British:  Invade, occupy, install a puppet government on the British model (a constitutional monarchy) and trust them to rule the country in your interests for relatively modest sums of money and the backing of what was then the most powerful Empire in the world.

Why do you need to pretend it's so complex?  Rape and robbery are the oldest stories in history, from the Roman Empire through Adolf Hitler down to George W. Bush.  It's simple, really.  Think of the Hitler model from WWII, and you won't get so confused.

[sirs]

You gotta be careful, sirs, you'll get dizzy running in all those self-created circles.

You're right.  Trying to keep up with how the left tries to explain the skillful brilliance of the evil master planner Bush with how incompotent he is, is quite dizzying

[BT]

To the best of my knowledge Iraq has issued two oil contracts.

One was to China, the other to Royal Dutch Shell.

Both of those are heavily owned by non US interests.

So the whole idea that the war was to control wo got contracts seems to be proven not true by the contracts given.

And these are the people who support Obama?

And they dare ask about Kool-Aid?

[sirs]

Precisely....then again, that's supposed validation of how incompotent Bush is supposed to have been.  See how neatly the circular (il)logic works

[Knutey]

To the best of my knowledge Iraq has issued two oil contracts.

One was to China, the other to Royal Dutch Shell.

Both of those are heavily owned by non US interests.

So the whole idea that the war was to control wo got contracts seems to be proven not true by the contracts given.

And these are the people who support Obama?

And they dare ask about Kool-Aid?

Actually, it only proves how badly the Bushidiot has failed at nearly everything he has wanted . Except tax cuts for the rich , of course. I know you will forgive him because of these.

[Michael Tee]

<<To the best of my knowledge Iraq has issued two oil contracts.

<<One was to China, the other to Royal Dutch Shell.

<<Both of those are heavily owned by non US interests. >>

Not only is that the oldest trick in the con-man's book (tokenism) but I predicted in an earlier post that the first contracts would probably go to non-U.S. firms just so con artists and their dupes (BT, sirs and plane being great examples of the latter) could point to the token contracts and crow, "See?  It couldn't have been about oil after all."

I would suggest to my right-wing friends and all others suffering from severely impaired judgment, that the real test is not in the first contracts awarded but when the last contract is awarded.  THAT'S when you want to know who got the lion's share.

[Xavier_Onassis]

Actually, you have to bribe the people who build the tankers and tank trucks to falsify their capacities.

No, you don't, because they don't have to  fill them to capacity. But that could be faked easily enough.

[BT]

Actually, it only proves how badly the Bushidiot has failed at nearly everything he has wanted . Except tax cuts for the rich , of course. I know you will forgive him because of these.

Actually it just shows your and your ilks propensity for lying.

Bush wanted a tax cut.

He got it.

Bush wanted NCLB

He got it.

Bush wanted a prescription drug benefit.

He got it.

Bush wanted to invade Iraq.

He got it.

If Bush wanted the oil

He would have gotten it.

[Xavier_Onassis]

If Bush wanted the oil

He would have gotten it.


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No, because it has been very difficult forming a puppet government.

[Amianthus]

No, you don't, because they don't have to  fill them to capacity. But that could be faked easily enough.

Yeah, because you can't check the levels in any other way than trusting the guy who filled it up.

And nobody down the line checks, either. They all trust that one guy to be honest, and never check up on it.
 

[Knutey]

Actually, it only proves how badly the Bushidiot has failed at nearly everything he has wanted . Except tax cuts for the rich , of course. I know you will forgive him because of these.

Actually it just shows your and your ilks propensity for lying.
> You accuse us of lying . I accuse y'all of being fools who wouldnt recognize a real lie if it bit you in the ass.<
Bush wanted a tax cut.

He got it.
> And fucked up the economy in the process<Just look around at the needed bail out.
Bush wanted NCLB

He got it.

>And fucked up the school system in the process<
http://www.amte.net/becker/9-2-2004-bushflunks.htm

Bush wanted a prescription drug benefit.

He got it.

>And the main benefit went to big Pharma<http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17244

Bush wanted to invade Iraq.

He got it.
> A total fuck up < Need I say more?
If Bush wanted the oil

He would have gotten it.

>He didnt , but he still fucked up the war on terror by trying<

He fucked up everyone of those things you posted.

[Michael Tee]

These guys simply aren't interested in facts or truth.  All they really give a shit about is the spin.  It is obvious beyond the need to even explain that the original excuses for going in were outright lies, often built on false evidence after the real evidence showing no threat was produced; the absurdity of Iraq being a threat to the U.S. is simply ignored.  The long-standing plans to invade Iraq and the need for "a new Pearl Harbor" similarly ignored.  The history of the U.S.A. - - never ever have they voluntarily started a war to free anybody - - is ignored.  The oil wealth of Iraq is ignored or treated as a simple accident of history.

Knutey, if you've got time to waste arguing with these clowns, my hat's off to ya.  It's the Flat Earth Society all over again, but called the "Bush Didn't Lie and It's Not About Oil" and there is literally no end to it.