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Xavier_Onassis

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Re: Delta Force: Never mind
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2008, 10:26:59 AM »
There isn't much good compromise availible with the Taliban right now , if they survive a few more years the Afgan Government can make a deal with them as it pleases.

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The compromise would be to accept the Taliban as a bona fide political party, capable of running for office like any other.
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Michael Tee

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Re: Delta Force: Never mind
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2008, 10:50:27 AM »
<<It isn't like denying their humanity at all , if there is basis for compromise it can be explored , if there isn't there isn't.>>

I think first you gotta talk.  As you can see, we even talked with the Nazis towards the end of the war.  As a matter of fact in my next post, you'll see that McCain talked with the Nazis after the END of the war.  Long after.

<<Sometimes compromise isn't a good idea, late in WWII the Axis learned that "uncondisional surrender" was an exact term, although the war might have been over months sooner with a compromise the allies were adamant and agreed on the need to weed out the NATZIs.>>

The Nazis were a problem unique unto themselves and it made sense at the time to liquidate their power base once and for all.  The end was in sight, millions of lives had already been spent, and the Red Army was gonna do it anyway, come hell or high water.  Giving them any kind of a deal just made no sense at all.

Taliban may be different.  Their crimes come nowhere near the level of Nazi crimes, their war is still very much alive, in fact it's growing, and the options are really widening the war after seven years or seeing if we can reach common ground with them.  It may be that we cannot, but at least the opportunity should be seriously and persistently explored.

<<There isn't much good compromise availible with the Taliban right now , if they survive a few more years the Afgan Government can make a deal with them as it pleases.>>

I say, we pull out NOW and whatever deal the Afghan "government" (who are we kidding with that word?  "the Mayor of Kabul," to be a little more exact) can make a deal with Taliban if he likes, but if he's smart, he'll get out when we get out, or he'll meet the fate of the last Communist Prime Minister of Afghanistan.  Any pull-out HAS to be accompanied by sanctuary in the coalition countries for all collaborators.  Taliban are some of the worst human-rights violators on this planet, and it's plain as day right now that nobody wants to commit the manpower necessary to wipe them out.

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Re: Delta Force: Never mind
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2008, 01:25:23 PM »
I think it would be a bad idea to withdraw from Afghanistan now. The Taliban does not have the sympathy of most of the people there, but neither do the people favor a long occupation. Somewhere there has to be an ideal solution. Afghanistan is not Iraq. It will not require the manpower or resources to evict the Taliban from strategic areas.


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