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You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« on: October 09, 2008, 03:45:11 PM »
I remember how you guys all took all kinds of umbrage at anyone daring to have the audacity to even suggest that Bush and/or anyone working for him would ever be listening to ANYONE other than a terrorist in the middle of the desert as he holds a bomb in his hand as he talks to his American supporter.

Now we know, Bush gave power to a bunch of knuckle headed fratboys who abused their power that he had no right to give them in the first place.

Bush Lied.  How long till it comes out that the rest of that statement comes out?*




ABC Report: NSA ‘Routinely’ Listened In On Americans’ Phone Calls, Passed Around ‘Salacious’ Bits

bushpoint.jpgEver since President Bush confirmed the existence of a National Security Administration wiretapping program in late 2005, he has insisted it is aimed only at terrorists’ calls and protects Americans’ civil liberties:

    – If somebody from al Qaeda is calling you, we’d like to know why. … In the meantime, this program is conscious of people’s civil liberties, as am I. This is a limited program designed to prevent attacks on the United States of America — and I repeat: limited. [1/1/06]

    – This is a — I repeat to you, even though you hear words, “domestic spying,” these are not phone calls within the United States. It’s a phone call of an al Qaeda, known al Qaeda suspect, making a phone call into the United States. I’m mindful of your civil liberties. [1/23/06]

    – People who analyze the program fully understand that America’s civil liberties are well protected. There is a constant check to make sure that our civil liberties of our citizens are treated with respect. [2/28/08]

However, ABC News reports that the NSA frequently listened to and transcribed the private phone calls of Americans abroad, according to two former military intercept operators. These conversations included those of American soldiers stationed in Iraq and American aid workers abroad, such as Doctors Without Borders:

    [Former Navy Arab linguist David Murfee] Faulk says he and others in his section of the NSA facility at Fort Gordon routinely shared salacious or tantalizing phone calls that had been intercepted, alerting office mates to certain time codes of “cuts” that were available on each operator’s computer.

    “Hey, check this out,” Faulk says he would be told, “there’s good phone sex or there’s some pillow talk, pull up this call, it’s really funny, go check it out. It would be some colonel making pillow talk and we would say, ‘Wow, this was crazy’,” Faulk told ABC News. […]

    “We knew they were working for these aid organizations,” [former Army Reserves Arab linguist Adrienne] Kinne told ABC News. “They were identified in our systems as ‘belongs to the International Red Cross’ and all these other organizations. And yet, instead of blocking these phone numbers we continued to collect on them,” she told ABC News.

Kinne called Bush’s assurances that the U.S. was only tracking phone calls of a “known al Qaeda suspect” “completely a lie.” Click here to watch ABC’s report.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/wiretapping-whistleblowers/







*The full statement is usually "Bush Lied, People Died".

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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2008, 03:52:59 PM »
You confuse the policy, with the implementation and the implementers.

Those who abused the position by laughing, joking and sharing pillow talk intercepts should be fired, and depending on whether they qualify for whistleblower status, they probably will be.


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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2008, 04:33:14 PM »
So of course, Brass is now going to provide us the links that had Bush supporting & pushing this NSA activity, right??
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2008, 05:13:26 PM »
You confuse the policy, with the implementation and the implementers.

Those who abused the position by laughing, joking and sharing pillow talk intercepts should be fired, and depending on whether they qualify for whistleblower status, they probably will be.

Oy.

It's not the gun that kills, is it?

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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2008, 05:14:06 PM »
So of course, Brass is now going to provide us the links that had Bush supporting & pushing this NSA activity, right??

I don't have to.  Bush lied.  He said they were only listening to terrorists.

Lied.

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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2008, 05:35:01 PM »
LOL....you do if you're going to validate your OPINION that Bush lied.  They were supposed to listen to only terrorists.  Ball in your court, big fella
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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2008, 07:06:18 PM »
LOL....you do if you're going to validate your OPINION that Bush lied.  They were supposed to listen to only terrorists.  Ball in your court, big fella

Bush grabbed the power, gave to these individuals.  It's his tarbaby.  He lied.

I love how you guys demand that Bush be made king and trust him endlessly then when it all falls to staves and he's shown to be doing what we on the left predicted would happen, you blame ANYBODY BUT HIM.


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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2008, 07:31:59 PM »
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It's not the gun that kills, is it?

No it is the killer who kills.

Not the gun, not the designer, not the manufacturer nor the president of the gun company.



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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2008, 08:26:39 PM »
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It's not the gun that kills, is it?

No it is the killer who kills.

Not the gun, not the designer, not the manufacturer nor the president of the gun company.


They provided the means to do the killing more effectively and efficiently.

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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2008, 09:39:47 PM »
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They provided the means to do the killing more effectively and efficiently.

These calls originated overseas, did they not?

If that is the case, how is this different than what the NSA has been doing since Kennedy's days?


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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2008, 09:47:17 PM »
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They provided the means to do the killing more effectively and efficiently.

These calls originated overseas, did they not?

If that is the case, how is this different than what the NSA has been doing since Kennedy's days?



BT, buddy, listen.  I couldn't care less.

Bush said they were only listening in on terrorists.  They weren't.  He lied.  The End.

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Re: You Took Bush At His Word, And He Lied To Your Faces
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2008, 10:10:31 PM »
Brass,

Are you not interested in having a simple clue as to what you are ranting about?

If they originated overseas, Bush's changes had nothing to do with this.