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Let the Witchhunts begin
« on: November 11, 2006, 07:03:32 PM »
Waxman Set to Probe Areas of Bush Gov't
Nov 10, 2006
   
By ERICA WERNER
Associated Press Writer

LOS ANGELES


The Democratic congressman who will investigate the Bush administration's running of the government says there are so many areas of possible wrongdoing, his biggest problem will be deciding which ones to pursue.

There's the response to Hurricane Katrina, government contracting in Iraq and on homeland security, political interference in regulatory decisions by the Environmental Protection Agency and the Food and Drug Administration, and allegations of war profiteering, Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., told the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce.

"I'm going to have an interesting time because the Government Reform Committee has jurisdiction over everything," Waxman said Friday, three days after his party's capture of Congress put him in line to chair the panel. "The most difficult thing will be to pick and choose."

Waxman, who's in his 16th term representing West Los Angeles, had plenty of experience leading congressional investigations before the Democrats lost control of the House to Republicans in 1994.

That was the year when, as chairman of an Energy and Commerce subcommittee, he presided over dramatic hearings he convened where the heads of leading tobacco companies testified that they didn't believe nicotine was addictive.

The scene made it into the movie "The Insider," but Waxman noted Friday that no subpoenas were issued to produce that testimony.

Republicans have speculated that a Democratic congressional majority will mean a flurry of subpoenas and investigations into everything under the sun as retaliation against the GOP and President Bush.

Not so, Waxman said.

"A lot of people have said to me, `Are you going to now go out and issue a lot of subpoenas and go on a wild payback time?' Well, payback is unworthy," he said. "Doing oversight doesn't mean issuing subpoenas. It means trying to get information."

Subpoenas would be used only as a last result, Waxman said, taking a jab at a previous committee chairman, GOP Rep. Dan Burton of Indiana, who led the committee during part of the Clinton administration.

"He issued a subpoena like most people write a letter," Waxman said.

Waxman complained that Republicans, while in power, shut Democrats out of decision-making and abdicated oversight responsibilities, focusing only on maintaining their own power.

In contrast to the many investigations the GOP launched of the Clinton administration, "when Bush came into power there wasn't a scandal too big for them to ignore," Waxman said.

Among the issues that should have been investigated but weren't, Waxman contended, were the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal, the controversy over the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's name, and the pre-Iraq war use of intelligence.

He said Congress must restore accountability and function as an independent branch of government. "It's our obligation not to be repeating with the Republicans have done," Waxman said.


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/10/D8LAEECG1.html


(But when do the Impeachment Precedings begin?)
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2006, 07:31:17 PM »
You act like this is a bad thing.

Don't you WANT governmental oversight?  For someone who hates big government so much, you sure do hate when anyone wants to have a hearing to make sure everything is on the up and up.

It's time to stop the administration from dragging its feet and get to the bottom of some of this garbage so the country can move on.


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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2006, 07:35:29 PM »
Where there is corruption, let there be plenty of sterile scalpels and disinfectant.   
Criminals in government employ should be severed completely from their jobs and be made to pay the price of their crimes.  That's called "justice."   
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2006, 07:39:21 PM »
You act like this is a bad thing.

Yea, witchhunts are by design, a bad thing
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Re: Let the Witchhunts begin
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2006, 07:46:04 PM »
Well, I disagree with your characterization of oversight as "witchhunt".

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Re: Let the Witchhunts begin
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2006, 07:55:20 PM »
Well, I disagree with your characterization of oversight as "witchhunt".


You are, of course right, Brass. A witchhunt is when one tries to burn some  guy for getting a blowjob. Uncovering massive govt corruption and malfeasance in office is something that should be done constanttly. The Repubs benefitted from the corruption too much to do it.

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2006, 08:00:50 PM »
You are, of course right, Brass. A witchhunt is when one tries to burn some  guy for getting a blowjob. Uncovering massive govt corruption and malfeasance in office is something that should be done constanttly. The Repubs benefitted from the corruption too much to do it.

Exactly.

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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2006, 09:08:19 PM »
Well, I disagree with your characterization of oversight as "witchhunt".

While I can actually differentiate between the 2.  The former is expected of Congress.  The latter is what's likely to happen instead
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2006, 04:07:14 AM »
You act like this is a bad thing.

Yea, witchhunts are by design, a bad thing
Yes I agree, Witch Hunts are a very bad thing. When tortureis used and you have to say you are guilty when you are not to get them to stop, that is a bad thing. I wonder if that was done in the Black prisons that Bush sent men to, wihout a trial? Is torture being used in Gitmo? how about in Iraq?
A Witch hount is when you catch innocent people up... that is not what will happen.
\You can not have a Witch Hunt after the guilty.

I want to know why people were given millions  to re build after Katrina and it went all to Hallibrtor. I want to know where the 9 billion dollars went to n Iraq. I want to know if Halliburton charged us 42000 meals for the soldiers, but there was only 14000. I want to know who was at the meeting that Chaney had...did the energy companies write the Energy Bill?

Iwant to know who was wire tapped and was a law broken.  I want to know why we are in Iraq. Why did our men not get what they needed to  do their jobs and protect thmselves. I want to know why the law that  the medicare could not bargen with the phaemos for meds.

I want to know why the Ethics commitee was closed down for two years.  We are all trax payers and citizens of this country andwe should have answers. So take off the dunce hat and stop being so partisan and be a citizen and guard your democracy.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2006, 10:58:56 AM »
Corruption is bad, no matter who is guilty.

It would be exceedingly dumb to refrain from investigating, simply because Sirs thinks it will become a 'witch hunt'.
'Witchhunts' rarely ever result in even the guilty getting what they deserved. Observe how Nixon and Agnew stayed out of jail entirely, and the rest of the thieves and scum did minimal sentences in cushy federal prisons.

The Clinton debacle was closer to a real witchhunt than anything the Democrats have ever done, and very few individuals suffered much.

What Juniorbush and his assortment of puppeteers have done is far worse than anything done by Nixon in Watergate.

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2006, 03:03:52 PM »
Yea, witchhunts are by design, a bad thing

Yes I agree, Witch Hunts are a very bad thing..... A Witch hount is when you catch innocent people up... that is not what will happen.

I beg to differ.  I'm expecting to see something akin to the Fitzgerald Investigation 10fold
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2006, 04:14:19 PM »
Oh yes, me too. 
You think that was a witch hunt?  Sorry. Not even close.  A grand jury was empaneled.  That is the justice system at work, not a witch hunt like Joe McCarthy era folks remember. 
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2006, 04:23:57 PM »
Investigations are necessary, especially on the big-ticket items of Iraq and Katrina. But tone is important, and appearances. If it seems the Democrats are submerging truth and good governance to petty political points, they will have lost their moral and political rationale.

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2006, 04:26:26 PM »
Oh yes, me too.  You think that was a witch hunt?  Sorry. Not even close.

Yea, pretty close.  I distinctly recall proclaimations of how Rove would be walked out in handcuffs, perhaps even Cheney, for supposedly divulging the identy of a covert CIA agent.  Just give Fitzgerald time and watch the indictments come swarming down.  When all was said and done;
a) it was NEVER determined that Plame was covert
b) No ONE was indicted for supposedly outing Plame
c) The only indictment was on Libby, who's recollection of what he said way back when wasn't precisely the same as the notes they had of what he was saying back then, were

I expect to see about 10fold of exactly these type of "oversight" investigations (translated : witchhunts)
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2006, 06:44:50 PM »
Cheney deserved to be marched away in chains, and so did Rove, and they still do.

They just got that fatboy Whatsisname to admit to everything.

Libbey clearly lied.

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