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sirs

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Let the Fraud now begin
« on: October 17, 2008, 02:04:14 PM »
And what's with this supposed RW court again??

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"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2008, 02:14:54 PM »
And what's with this supposed RW court again??

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Maybe not all the Rwers are as stupid and hate-filled as the ones in here. Unlikely, but could be.

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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2008, 02:21:07 PM »
It seems to me that the right wingers on the national scene are smarter than our local yokels by at least several octaves. Rove is utterly despicable, but he is smart, Rush has an actual sense of humor. I am guessing Coulter has to sleep with publishers to get published, though. Perhaps she perfoms unspeakable acts on them as well.

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 02:24:18 PM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 02:46:03 PM »
Wow.

"Let the crying begin."
I smell something burning, hope it's just my brains.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 02:56:57 PM »
Wow.

"Let the crying begin."

The defeated team is walking off the field before the final gun it seems. Oh goody!

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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 04:12:31 PM »
Hmm. So stealing elections is no longer a valid complaint.

Glad to know that times have changed

Knutey

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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2008, 04:17:53 PM »
Hmm. So stealing elections is no longer a valid complaint.

Glad to know that times have changed


You didnt listen to us when Bush stole it and there was a lot more proof of that.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2008, 04:28:11 PM »
And what's with this supposed RW court again??

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How does it feel?
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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 04:31:01 PM »
Hmm. So stealing elections is no longer a valid complaint.

Glad to know that times have changed


You didnt listen to us when Bush stole it and there was a lot more proof of that.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen


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Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls,"...


So far ,not a single one of these thousands has stepped forwards to prove that he is not a fictional person , if there are so many ,why is finding one of them so extremely hard?

ACORN was already in business , so it is very likely that there were thousands more ficticious persons on the rolls.

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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 04:47:12 PM »
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ACORN was already in business , so it is very likely that there were thousands more ficticious persons on the rolls.

The problem with fraudulent registrations does not mean that ACORN was trying to commit fraud. I have had my phone service changed twice, once from my long distance carrier to another carrier, and once to add services to my account. I did not authorize the changes in either case, and promptly had them changed back to my original service. In the first case, a long distance provider hired a group to sign up new customers for them, and paid them according to the number of new customers they signed up; some wiseguy picked random names and numbers out of a phone book and filled out and signed the cards himself, to make more money. In the second case, someone my carrier hired to sell high speed internet service added it to my account without my approval; when I got a recorded message from the carrier thanking me for signing up, I immediately called and had it cancelled. The point is, it wasn't the carrier in either case that was committing fraud; it was the people they hired to do their recruiting and selling for them, who were trying to cheat the carriers by signing people up without their knowledge.

Does ACORN do the same thing, i.e., hire people to take registrations and pay them based on the number of registrations they get? If they check the registrations and find any that look fraudulent, are they required to submit them anyway (as I have heard)? Are they even required to check the registrations before they submit them to the state, or does the state take the responsibility for checking the validity of the registrations?
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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2008, 04:49:55 PM »
Hmm. So stealing elections is no longer a valid complaint.

Glad to know that times have changed


It certainly is valid, but the election has yet to be held.

Many of the issues with ACORN have to do with registration laws. Some states require them to turn over ALL registrants. Therefore, ACORN cannot touch them - even if they get "Daffy Duck" and "Fidel Castro" which have appeared on many a form when I was dealing with university bureaucracy there isn't a damn thing they can do about it. Some of the complaints y'all are making have more to do with the state election regulations than the organization.

On a wider note, it seems a path to play the victim before the game has even begun. The anti-litigation and pro-State's Rights party (I know neither is true in reality, but on-face it is supposedly true) is again pursuing a lawsuit to defy both of those. Federalist? Not likely. Learning to lose with some dignity is a lost art.
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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2008, 04:50:01 PM »
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ACORN was already in business , so it is very likely that there were thousands more ficticious persons on the rolls.

The problem with fraudulent registrations does not mean that ACORN was trying to commit fraud.

Ok , if this is so then Acorn was so sloppy that this practice was widespread within it, and with regestrations running at 40% false what is the value of Acorn really?

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Re: Let the Fraud now begin
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2008, 04:57:05 PM »
60% success in getting new voters registered.

That seems rather obvious.
I smell something burning, hope it's just my brains.
They're only dropping peppermints and daisy-chains
   So stuff my nose with garlic
   Coat my eyes with butter
   Fill my ears with silver
   Stick my legs in plaster
   Tell me lies about Vietnam.