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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2008, 08:41:05 PM »
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I disagree. Everyone who pays out, should receive what they were promised.

Until they change the law. Never underestimate the power of the greedy have-nots.
If nothing else, they can vote.

The mob should have the same right to determine where the thresholds are for a SS means test as they have to determine how much is too much for someone to earn.

Stroke of a pen, law of the land.

Hello means tested Social Security.




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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2008, 08:42:33 PM »
Go right ahead. Float away on your vast puffy cloud of delusions.

Return when the Ron Paul ReLOVEution has occurred, or on any 30th of February you choose.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2008, 10:35:16 PM »
When that guy returns to that restraunt , he will learn the real consequence of redistribution.

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2008, 11:00:29 PM »
Go right ahead. Float away on your vast puffy cloud of delusions.

Return when the Ron Paul ReLOVEution has occurred, or on any 30th of February you choose.

I thought you were all for redistribution?


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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2008, 12:24:10 PM »
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2008, 01:34:32 PM »
When that guy returns to that restraunt , he will learn the real consequence of redistribution.

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So you actually believe that this entire scene with the stiffed waiter and the homeless guy actually happened?

It's pretty obvious that it is just a dumb story to make a rather absurd point.

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2008, 01:39:03 PM »
The literal nazi, strikes again
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2008, 01:43:42 PM »
So you actually believe that this entire scene with the stiffed waiter and the homeless guy actually happened?

It's possible, depends on how much of a-hole the writer really is. Most servers do not wear any sort of political garb / buttons / etc, because they don't want to possibly get stiffed on tips because of this. That being said, I do remember a couple of occasions where I was served by people wearing ITMFA tee-shirts - I guess they thought people on the "other side" were too dumb to know what they meant (a common failing among the left.)

I know one guy that always brought a pile of singles into a restaurant. After he was seated, he would put a small pile of singles onto the table, and say to the waiter: "That's your tip. Every time you do something I like, I'll add to the pile, and every time you do something I don't like, I'll take away from the pile."

I only ate at a restaurant with him that one time. And I passed the waitress a $10 bill folded into an origami peacock as we were leaving, just because she had to put up with his a-holery.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2008, 02:05:43 PM »
Here in Miami, Canadians and others who come from places where waiters are actually paid a living wage often leave tips that the locals consider too small. In many of the snootier restaurants they have this custom of sticking a tip of 17 to 20% on each and every check.  The cheaper restaurants never do this, just the ones where the wait staff already seems to do pretty well. They never add a paltry 10 or 15%, it's always more than the usual custom, which is around 15% for good service.

My policy is that if they tell me how much I have to tip, that is exactly what they will get...to the penny. Never a cent more.

I can say this, that in such places the service is almost always pretty good. Also, there are fewer smiley faces drawn on the check.

In other places, good service seems to be more dependent on management than decent tipping.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2008, 02:44:30 PM »
While I don't like the Obama plan for healthcare (it isn't socialist at all) I don't mind redistribution of wealth. Why should I?

I've yet to hear a convincing argument as to why redistributing wealth is such a horrid nightmare. The nation of Denmark does it and still has financial success. If we actually took pride in our public services and established good public services (which we certainly could, I don't think that we're too stupid to do so) then we'd even get our money's worth.

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2008, 03:23:28 PM »
There a lots of little cute stories like this that are making the rounds via email.  They are total distortions and/or absolute misrepresentations of Obama's stances.

A truer representation would have been for the person who ate the restaurant to take up a collection of pennies from everyone in the restaurant and taken everyone involved (the restaurant patrons, all the waiters, the homeless people outside and himself) to the hospital for check ups, flu shots and any other procedure they may need.

But that wouldn't get McCain any votes.  Just like any other realities would.

What the right would love to have everyone believe is that Obama wants to rob them and then make them watch utterly undeserving (in their eyes) people receive that which was taken from them in cold, hard cash to be spent on booze or drugs.

And that is an utter lie.

Grow up, people.

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2008, 03:26:09 PM »
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I've yet to hear a convincing argument as to why redistributing wealth is such a horrid nightmare.

The same reason a mugging is a horrid affair.


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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2008, 03:31:35 PM »
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I've yet to hear a convincing argument as to why redistributing wealth is such a horrid nightmare.

The same reason a mugging is a horrid affair.


This is what we're dealing with.  A segment of the nation equates taxes used to provide health care to an entire nation as a "mugging".

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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2008, 03:34:31 PM »
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I've yet to hear a convincing argument as to why redistributing wealth is such a horrid nightmare.

The same reason a mugging is a horrid affair.



I don't equate lifting people out of poverty to a mugging.

That argument is not rational.
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Re: Redistribution of Wealth
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2008, 03:37:08 PM »
I've already stated that i would have no problem with funding UHC with sales taxes. Everybody pays that way.

You and your ilk want to get UHC by taxing the rich.