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Obama victory sparks cheers around the globe
« on: November 05, 2008, 11:02:25 AM »
Obama victory sparks cheers around the globe
By JOHN LEICESTER, Associated Press Writer

PARIS ? Barack Obama's election as America's first black president unleashed a renewed love for the United States after years of dwindling goodwill, and many said Wednesday that U.S. voters had blazed a trail that minorities elsewhere could follow.

People across Africa stayed up all night or woke before dawn to watch U.S. history being made, while the president of Kenya ? where Obama's father was born ? declared a public holiday.

In Indonesia, where Obama lived as child, hundreds of students at his former elementary school erupted in cheers when he was declared winner and poured into the courtyard where they hugged each other, danced in the rain and chanted "Obama! Obama!"

"Your victory has demonstrated that no person anywhere in the world should not dare to dream of wanting to change the world for a better place," South Africa's first black president, Nelson Mandela, said in a letter of congratulations to Obama.

Many expressed amazement and satisfaction that the United States could overcome centuries of racial strife and elect an African-American as president.

"This is the fall of the Berlin Wall times ten," Rama Yade, France's black junior minister for human rights, told French radio. "America is rebecoming a New World.

"On this morning, we all want to be American so we can take a bite of this dream unfolding before our eyes," she said.

In Britain, The Sun newspaper borrowed from Neil Armstrong's 1969 moon landing in describing Obama's election as "one giant leap for mankind."

Yet celebrations were often tempered by sobering concerns that Obama faces global challenges as momentous as the hopes his campaign inspired ? wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the nuclear ambitions of Iran, the elusive hunt for peace in the Middle East and a global economy in turmoil.

The huge weight of responsibilities on Obama's shoulders was also a concern for some. French former Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin said Obama's biggest challenge would be managing a punishing agenda of various crises in the United States and the world. "He will need to fight on every front," he said.

Europe, where Obama is overwhelmingly popular, is one region that looked eagerly to an Obama administration for a revival in warm relations after the Bush government's chilly rift with the continent over the Iraq war.

"At a time when we have to confront immense challenges together, your election raises great hopes in France, in Europe and in the rest of the world," French President Nicolas Sarkozy said in a congratulations letter to Obama.

Poland's Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski spoke of "a new America with a new credit of trust in the world."

Skepticism, however, was high in the Muslim world. The Bush administration alienated those in the Middle East by mistreating prisoners at its detention center for terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and inmates at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison ? human rights violations also condemned worldwide.

Some Iraqis, who have suffered through five years of a war ignited by the United States and its allies, said they would believe positive change when they saw it.

"Obama's victory will do nothing for the Iraqi issue nor for the Palestinian issue," said Muneer Jamal, a Baghdad resident. "I think all the promises Obama made during the campaign will remain mere promises."

In Pakistan, a country vital to the U.S.-led war on the al-Qaida terrorist network and neighbor to Afghanistan, many hoped Obama would bring some respite from rising militant violence that many blame on Bush.

Still, Mohammed Arshad, a 28-year-old schoolteacher in the capital, Islamabad, doubted Obama's ability to change U.S. foreign policy dramatically.

"It is true that Bush gave America a very bad name. He has become a symbol of hate. But I don't think the change of face will suddenly make any big difference," he said.

But many around the world found Obama's international roots ? his father was Kenyan, and he lived four years in Indonesia as a child ? compelling and attractive.

"What an inspiration. He is the first truly global U.S. president the world has ever had," said Pracha Kanjananont, a 29-year-old Thai sitting at a Starbuck's in Bangkok. "He had an Asian childhood, African parentage and has a Middle Eastern name. He is a truly global president."

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AP correspondents worldwide contributed to this report.
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Re: Obama victory sparks cheers around the globe
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 11:13:21 AM »
"Obama's victory will do nothing for the Iraqi issue nor for the Palestinian issue," said Muneer Jamal, a Baghdad resident. "I think all the promises Obama made during the campaign will remain mere promises."

This is certainly true, but only until he does something.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 02:52:02 PM »
It was the entire front page of the Toronto Star today and lots of Obama parties all over the city last night.  A few months ago, a national poll showed 70% of Canadians would have voted Obama.

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Re: Obama victory sparks cheers around the globe
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 04:39:59 PM »
A few months ago, a national poll showed 70% of Canadians would have voted Obama.

If you really want to, each province can submit it's application to Congress to be accepted as part of the United States.
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Re: Obama victory sparks cheers around the globe
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 06:13:04 PM »
A few months ago, a national poll showed 70% of Canadians would have voted Obama.

If you really want to, each province can submit it's application to Congress to be accepted as part of the United States.

I am against it, we might never elect another Republican.

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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 06:58:19 PM »
I am against it, we might never elect another Republican.

That would be a real plus, but I really don't see any unification of the US and Canada. Like Argentina and Uruguay, we have a lot in common, but we are different people and different countries.

I am all for a two party system, but the hideous warmongering borrow and squander monstrosity that the GOP had become is both incompetent and dangerous.  Compassionate conservatives that have no compassion and conserve nothing. Useless as tits on a bull, but less decorative.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 07:26:13 PM »
I am against it, we might never elect another Republican.

That would be a real plus, but I really don't see any unification of the US and Canada. Like Argentina and Uruguay, we have a lot in common, but we are different people and different countries.

I am all for a two party system, but the hideous warmongering borrow and squander monstrosity that the GOP had become is both incompetent and dangerous.  Compassionate conservatives that have no compassion and conserve nothing. Useless as tits on a bull, but less decorative.

If you are for two partys that have no substantial disagreement , are you really for the two party system?

By the way a three party system is not constitutionally forbidden , it is just mathamaticly difficult.

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Re: Obama victory sparks cheers around the globe
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 07:32:03 PM »
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Re: Obama victory sparks cheers around the globe
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 07:34:21 PM »
This is a bittersweet moment for Kenyans. There is considerable joy at the achievements of Mr Obama, who makes no secret of his East African heritage. But that pride is tempered by a measure of shame that he would have had a hard time attaining the highest office in the land of his father, simply because of his ethnic roots.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/why-kenyas-pride-in-obama-victory-is-tempered-994355.html

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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 07:36:06 PM »
If you are for two partys that have no substantial disagreement , are you really for the two party system?

By the way a three party system is not constitutionally forbidden , it is just mathamaticly difficult.


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The US is one of very few countries that does not have three or more parties. Canada has four, the UK has three, nearly all of Europe has more than three.

We could have a Green Party and a Labor Party. I just think that the Republican Party has outlived any possible usefulness. When Goldwater ran, it had an actual purpose, but now it's just an assortment of patsies being deluded by oligarchs.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 07:46:27 PM »
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The problem is that politicians over here, and political journalists too, have election envy.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/openhouse/2008/11/british-politic.html

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 08:19:32 PM »
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Even as Obama's tally approached an inevitable victory, most locals—unfamiliar with U.S. electoral politics—remained unmoved. But as day broke, CNN declared the outcome for Obama, instantly transforming the widely held hope—and disbelief—here that a man whose roots touch African ground could reach the world's most powerful post.

"We were very concerned about the 'Bradley effect,' " Barack's uncle, Said Obama, later confessed,


http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/11/05/after-obamas-triumph-jubilation-and-tears-of-joy-in-obamas-ancestral-home-village-in-kenya-.html


I am thouroughly amazed that the "Bradley Effect " is getting discussed so many thousands of miles away.

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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 11:26:40 PM »
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... he would have had a hard time attaining the highest office in the land of his father, simply because of his ethnic roots.

Not so long ago, that would have been true here as well.

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2008, 12:26:36 AM »
If you are for two partys that have no substantial disagreement , are you really for the two party system?

By the way a three party system is not constitutionally forbidden , it is just mathamaticly difficult.


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The US is one of very few countries that does not have three or more parties. Canada has four, the UK has three, nearly all of Europe has more than three.

We could have a Green Party and a Labor Party. I just think that the Republican Party has outlived any possible usefulness. When Goldwater ran, it had an actual purpose, but now it's just an assortment of patsies being deluded by oligarchs.

There is a peculiar nature in the number two , it suits itself to questions in a bianary way.

A third party in our nation is going to be in a zero sum game with the two established partys , it must rob one or both to get anywhere and the established partys tend to rob it back.

Any issue brought forward by a third party will naturally be adopted by one and opposed by the other leaveing the origional party still small and bereft of its favoriate issue.

I think the Libertairian party is going to benefit from the Republican's poor performance and incomplete adoption of the "small government" idea, but even so isn't it prone to be faster to improve the Republican prosition than to build up a big party from a small one?

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2008, 05:44:07 AM »
The Libertarian Party has been an exercise in futility so far. Observe the low, low turnout for Bob Barr. I cannot imagine the Libertarians getting more than 3% of the vote in the best of circumstances. Most people do not want to abolish most of the government.

The Republicans committed suicide when they nominated Juniorbush and Cheney. Clowns like Delay, Armey and Stevens do not help much, either. They stand for nothing.

When your own candidates have to run as "mavericks" against your standing president, and then lose, you have major problems.
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