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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2008, 02:50:51 PM »
I thought johnny moon was also raised indian but somehow he ended up a cowboy and the only difference is thier eyes

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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2008, 02:54:41 PM »
On the other hand, for them to be truly opposite, as a negative proton vs a positive one, a positive electron vs a negative one, matter vs antimatter, and for them to STILL BE TWINS with the same parents, well, that would seem to defy the laws of physics. At least one law, probably more.

And which law of physics would that be? And why does it violate it?
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2008, 04:16:45 PM »
I beg to differ, but I think that the point of the entire article was that they are very likely. And as Ami is saying further up in the thread, predicted.

But with any luck this argument will soon be moot - when the LHC is up and running at full power.

Parallel universes and opposites (evil twins, evil Spock, evil Kirk, etc.) are like "I woke up and it was all a dream!" bits: a useful plot alternative in writing fiction. In real life, these are very unlikely.

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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2008, 04:25:27 PM »
But with any luck this argument will soon be moot - when the LHC is up and running at full power.

Well, the LHC does not provide direct evidence that this is true. It will, however, provide evidence that the current models are correct, which is indirect evidence for the existence of multiple dimensions, each with a separate universe.
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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2008, 04:30:30 PM »
Actually, the more relevant (to the masses of humanity) result of the LHC experiments - provided they show the expected model to be be correct - is that mass (and hence gravity) is governed by a separate particle. This makes contra gravity a potential end result, with all that implies...

If you can remove the "mass" from an object, even temporarily, space flight becomes cheap.
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2008, 05:03:56 PM »
But with any luck this argument will soon be moot - when the LHC is up and running at full power.

Well, the LHC does not provide direct evidence that this is true. It will, however, provide evidence that the current models are correct, which is indirect evidence for the existence of multiple dimensions, each with a separate universe.

OK - good enough.  :D

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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2008, 06:32:22 PM »
It will, however, provide evidence that the current models are correct, which is indirect evidence for the existence of multiple dimensions, each with a separate universe.

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In our universe, we seem have three spatial dimensions (width, height, depth) and one tewmporal one (time).

Won't every universe have the same number, or at least a  multiplicity of dimensions?
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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2008, 08:37:20 PM »
If you can remove the "mass" from an object, even temporarily, space flight becomes cheap.
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What remains of the object once you remove the mass? 
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2008, 09:03:12 PM »
It seems like a violation of the conservation of Mass and energy , conservation of momentum seems to be offended somewhat and the Heisenburg principle is totally pissed off about it.

Perhaps "empty space is filled with pairs of particles being created and annialateing each other in a constant froth of quantum activity , but what seaparation could there be that frees us from the new gravity of the new world?

If an event occurs that has six possible outcomes would there be six worlds created? What if there were eighty happenings simultainously that each has large numbers of possible outcomes? Would there be created an extreme number of worlds all over the place?

Since people are makeing decisions with flipped coins all of the time and we have not thereby becme a black hole , there must be a seaparation of each new world from the old one that is totally impervious to gravity.

What if there are only a few worlds in a few universes ?
Could the diffrent worlds occupy near space or would they have to occupy the interstices in our space?

This could explain "dark Matter " as long as there were not a lot of "Brames " , but unless there was a real insulation against gravity there could still be an occasional collision of massive objects.

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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2008, 09:27:49 PM »
If you can remove the "mass" from an object, even temporarily, space flight becomes cheap.
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What remains of the object once you remove the mass? 

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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2008, 11:46:36 PM »
In our universe, we seem have three spatial dimensions (width, height, depth) and one tewmporal one (time).

Our universe contains (at a minimum) 13 dimensions. Unless quantum mechanics is wrong (which is the whole basis of modern physics).
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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2008, 11:49:39 PM »
What remains of the object once you remove the mass? 

If mass can be removed, the object will no longer be subject to gravitation attraction (it won't fall to the earth). The rest of the object would remain. You realize that most objects are virtually all empty space filled with field vectors, right?
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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2008, 12:57:11 AM »
In our universe, we seem have three spatial dimensions (width, height, depth) and one temporal one (time).

Our universe contains (at a minimum) 13 dimensions. Unless quantum mechanics is wrong (which is the whole basis of modern physics).

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What would the other ten dimensions be, assuming that the three given are correct?
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Re: Parallel Universes
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2008, 01:12:13 AM »
What would the other ten dimensions be, assuming that the three given are correct?

You listed four. Three space-like dimensions and one time-like dimension. The remainder are only perceivable at the subatomic level, and they are all space-like. Some theories predict as many as 26 total dimensions.

And I was incorrect in my original post, there is a minimum of 10 dimensions, with the most likely number being 11 - not 13.
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