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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2008, 06:16:44 PM »
BT needs to archive this title & post, and compare it to 4 years from now, when we're in double digit unemployment, out-of-control inflation, and misery index peaking at 19
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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2008, 06:21:12 PM »
BT needs to archive this title & post, and compare it to 4 years from now, when we're in double digit unemployment, out-of-control inflation, and misery index peaking at 19
I hope BT does because I am sure what ever Big O does gets better results than your Bushidiot.

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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2008, 06:24:15 PM »
BT needs to archive this title & post, and compare it to 4 years from now, when we're in double digit unemployment, out-of-control inflation, and misery index peaking at 19

I hope BT does

As do I, thus the request
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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2008, 06:46:00 PM »
Only a fool would want Obama to be like FDR. I doubt even the Republicans wish him to govern that poorly.
Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.
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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2008, 07:07:37 PM »
Only a fool would want Obama to be like FDR. I doubt even the Republicans wish him to govern that poorly.

Just shows why you failed History, Jr.

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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2008, 11:51:32 PM »
Only a fool would want Obama to be like FDR. I doubt even the Republicans wish him to govern that poorly.


If he is a success , and by that success he leads tofreedom, safety and prosperity , I am all for his success.


It would be a wonderfull surprise.


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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2008, 12:17:34 AM »

Just shows why you failed History, Jr.


Ah, but that is just it, I did not fail it. And if you think double digit unemployment and a 10+ year severe economic depression is something to look forward to, then I clearly know more about it than you do.
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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2008, 01:09:17 AM »
BT needs to archive this title & post, and compare it to 4 years from now, when we're in double digit unemployment, out-of-control inflation, and misery index peaking at 19

Sirs, I have to tell you - I don't care if Daffy Duck won the election - I'd really rather hope for the best rather than forecast the worst just to hope that the president-elect fails.

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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2008, 01:36:04 AM »
You're not quite following Miss Henny.  I'm not "hoping" Obama fails.  Given his socialistic agenda and campaign pledges, I'm "expecting" him to fail.  A distinct difference
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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2008, 01:52:49 AM »
You're not quite following Miss Henny.  I'm not "hoping" Obama fails.  Given his socialistic agenda and campaign pledges, I'm "expecting" him to fail.  A distinct difference

Point taken.

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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2008, 05:33:16 AM »
Expectations are extremely high amoung his fans .

That is usefull to him and a curse to him too.

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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2008, 10:32:17 AM »
Expectations are extremely high amoung his fans .

That is usefull to him and a curse to him too.
Right- Just look at what it did to theBushidiot and he actually failed.

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Re: Like FDR - Thiswill Be One of Our Most Beloved Pres
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2008, 10:51:21 AM »

Just shows why you failed History, Jr.


Ah, but that is just it, I did not fail it. And if you think double digit unemployment and a 10+ year severe economic depression is something to look forward to, then I clearly know more about it than you do.

That is the price we paid for "free markets" then which FDR had to repair. This downturn will probly last longer because an even bigger idiot ( Bush ) caused it and we wont even have a good war to end it. Nevertheless, real Americans will support the man who tries and gives them hope ( Big O) instead of fails and gives them depressions.

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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2008, 11:00:13 AM »
I do not believe Obama has read Amity Schlaes "The Forgotten Man", which in my judgment is essential for understanding the Great Depression and what effects The New Deal had and didn't have. Roosevelt was not an ideologue. He thought himself a pragmatist. Most of what he did did not work as planned; we are stuck with the remnants of many of his measures, one of which, Fannie Mae which transmogrified from the rather successful FHA into a monster that has contribuited to triggering the crisis.

It does appear as if Obama believes that public works will get us out of a Depression. Roosevelt thought that too. It's pretty standard Keynesian economics. Some public works are very useful, but it's still direct government supervision of where to spend money. Do you really believe the Government know where to apply these funds?

WWII got us out of the Great Depression; not Roosevelt's policies.

Don't get me wrong; I sincerely hope he and his policies succeed as this great nation needs much improvement in nearly ALL arenas.
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