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Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« on: January 04, 2010, 07:24:52 PM »
Officials: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing

Key Asset Was Tasked With Finding al-Qaeda's Zawahri

by Jason Ditz, January 04, 2010

Officials are now confirming claims made yesterday in a statement by Tehreek-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) leader Hakimullah Mehsud, that the perpetrator of Wednesday?s bombing at Forward Operating Base Chapman was a Jordanian agent.

They identified the bomber as Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, a Jordanian doctor who was arrested last year as an ?al-Qaeda sympathizer.? Since then Jordanian officials believed they had reformed him, and had set him up as an agent of their intelligence agency.

Balawi was sent off to the borderlands between Afghanistan and Pakistan to infiltrate al-Qaeda in an attempt by Jordanian and US officials to find out the location of al-Qaeda number two man Ayman al-Zawahri.

But Taliban spokesmen now say that Balawi never actually ?reformed? and that he had been operating as a double agent for them for a year, building up trust before hitting one of the CIA?s most important installations in Afghanistan.

Balawi reportedly set up the meeting, calling his Jordanian handler to claim he had ?urgent? information for the CIA about Zawahri. He arrived with a suicide vest on, killing eight people, including his handler and seven CIA agents.

The handler in question turns out to be Jordanian Army Captain Ali bin Zeid, who ostenisbly died on Wednesday on a ?humanitarian mission? but was actually a highly placed intelligence operative working with Jordan?s tiny Afghan War contingent. Capt. Zeid is also a first cousin of Jordan?s King Abdullah II.

The Jordanian government formally denied any link to the bombing yesterday, and at the moment it appears that they were duped by a key asset who turned out to be a double agent. It is unclear what effect the revelation will have on Jordan?s growing role as a CIA counterterrorism ally.

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/01/04/officials-jordanian-doubt-agent-carried-out-afghan-cia-bombing/
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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2010, 09:00:35 PM »
Al-Quieda suffers from a severe lack of imagination.

Although key personell were lost in this Al-Quieda victory , they gave up an asset that could have learned for them volumes of real data and told to the CIA volumes of false data.

They killed key personell that will be difficult to replace , instead of having for themselves a window to the inner camp of their opposition .

This paucity of imagination might eventually cause Al-Queda to wear itself out.

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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 09:13:03 PM »
Plane you could be right....but there are other scenarios just as viable.

Maybe AL-Kill-Ya knew stuff about this guy and they knew his worth
was coming to an end....so why not use him to pull off this attack...

Who knows.....obviously we dont have enough info to make anything but wild speculation.
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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 10:06:53 PM »
This is certainoly an Al Queda style success, but like all of their successes it costs them a valuable person to suicide.

If the situation were reversed , wouldn't we rather have a spy inside Osama Bin Laden's camp than OBL spitted and roasted?

I hope we would prefer haveing the infiltrator , we are at war with OBL and Al Quieda but the whole orginisation is hurt worse by repeated failure than by loss of top leadership.


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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 11:21:12 PM »
<<Al-Quieda suffers from a severe lack of imagination.>>

Yeah, you're right, plane, 9-11 was SUCH a pedestrian operation.

<<Although key personell were lost in this Al-Quieda victory , they gave up an asset that could have learned for them volumes of real data and told to the CIA volumes of false data.>>

CU4 gave an excellent reason why this could have been a win for al Qaeda on two fronts, including the "loss" of a "valuable" agent, the other possibility of course is that they have more windows into the CIA than the CIA does into them.

Maybe it's not al Qaeda that is suffering from a severe lack of imagination.

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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2010, 12:57:57 PM »
From a local blogger...


Shooting Your Foot: Jordan?s Afghanistan And CIA Connection
http://www.black-iris.com/2010/01/05/shooting-your-foot-jordans-afghanistan-and-cia-connection/



It has undeniably been the talk of the town here in Amman, to say nothing of the local virtual spheres; an interesting contrast to the local mainstream media that has remained relatively hush-hush about the death of Sharif Ali bin Zaid. Initial reports suggested that eight people had died in a suicide attack, which was deemed the worst attack on US intelligence in over 25 years (or since Hizballah attacked the Beirut?s US embassy in ?83) ; but that number suddenly became seven. It seemed to take little time before a Jordanian connection was made, and reports surfaced that Captain Ali bin Zaid - a distant member of the royal family given his designation of ?sharif? - had been the eight victim of the attack. Buried in Jordan on January 2nd, in a funeral attended by HM King Abdullah and HM Queen Rania, the story seemed to go bust locally, with his mission being deemed a ?humanitarian? one by the press and then put to rest quite literally. End of story.

It took less than 48 hours later for more information to emerge that the suicide bomber was Jordanian. In Amman, everyone seemed to have seen this piece of information scrawl across the screen of an Al Jazeera news ticker. Al Jazeera?s information was coming from a Taliban spokesperson, and this news was, naturally, quickly denied by the Jordanian government, which, naturally, spoke too soon.

    The suicide bomber who killed seven CIA operatives in Afghanistan last week was a Jordanian informant who lured intelligence officers into a trap by promising new information about al-Qaeda?s top leadership, former U.S. government officials said Monday. The attacker, a physician-turned-mole, had been recruited to infiltrate al-Qaeda?s senior circles and had gained the trust of his CIA and Jordanian handlers with a stream of useful intelligence leads, according to two former senior officials briefed on the agency?s internal investigation. His track record as an informant apparently allowed him to enter a key CIA post without a thorough search, the sources said.

    The bomber, identified as Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, was standing just outside an agency building on the base Wednesday when he exploded a bomb hidden under his clothes, killing the seven Americans along with a Jordanian officer who had been assigned to work with him. Six CIA operatives were wounded. [source]

Apparently, Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, was a 36-year old doctor from Zarqa. Of course it didn?t take long for the international media to remember that Zarqa was the hometown of Musab Zarqawi. Remember him?

Interestingly enough, Balawi was ?turned? after being arrested in 2007 for his activities on an extremist website that was being monitored by authorities. Balawi became an administrator of the site where he operated under the screen name of Abu Dujana al-Khorasani. Moreover, he was also a Jordanian blogger who according to sources, had a Maktoob-hosted blog that seems to still be accessible but seems to have had its archives flushed.

According to sources, Balawi was a trusted informant despite his extremist tendencies, which were probably the same tendencies the CIA and Jordan?s General Intelligence Department (GID) were using to their advantage when they used him as an informant with Al Queda?s circles. It is however astonishing that both the CIA and GID, despite the notoriety of both intelligence entities in their field, were duped by this one man they had working for them, who turns out was a triple agent. It is very likely that Jordan will be given its share of the blame for its responsibility in arresting, turning and bringing Balawi to the attention of the CIA in the first place. But, even more embarrassing for Jordan is it?s CIA connection, which while relatively well-known before, has now been put out in the public sphere for all to see - especially the Arab street. The Jordanian government will likely go on as if nothing ever happened, believing that Jordanians have no access to information, but being that we live in the information age where practically every Jordanian household has Al Jazeera and a million other channels, this is one piece of information that isn?t going to be kept quite.

This is, of course, a subject that the state considers to be the very definition of a ?red line?. I assume most journalists will be avoiding the issue like the plague, lest they be charged with the notoriously overused ?attempting to harm the state?s relations? charge. However, the problem with such a charge, at least this time around, is that it seems the GID has done a pretty good job of doing the ?harming? all by itself. It is the very definition of shooting oneself in the foot.

The repercussions are akin to opening Pandora?s Box. Jordan has lost tremendous face and what little political capital it had in a region where pretty much every country has a CIA connection they keep quite. Moreover, they have given both Al Queda as well as Jordanians with extremist tendencies, a hero - a martyr to admire. Before the 2005 bombings in Amman, Jordanians were somewhat split on their views of Zarqawi - who was seen by some as a man fighting Americans invading Arab lands, and by others as a man killing innocent people and instigating sectarian strife in Iraq. After the bombings, the perceptions seemed to shift more so towards the latter, although not completely. Yes, even after the bombings in Amman, many did conclude that Jordan gets what it pays for, i.e. by being perceived as a close ally of the US, it is deemed a supporter of its policies and thus a legitimate target by extremist forces. This perceptions has continued to exist to this day.

However, Balawi?s story will only serve to solidify that perception further, taking it to unprecedented heights, where he will undoubtedly be perceived by the Jordanian public as a man who managed to deal an enormous blow to one of the most despised entities in the world, the CIA (from a Jordanian perspective) - to say nothing of Jordanian intelligence (who do not enjoy much love either) who were caught red handed working with the CIA. Not only will Balawi serve as the ultimate poster boy for extremist factions within Jordanian society and beyond it, but he will have empowered groups that look to the Jordanian state as a legitimate target. And as seen on November 9th, 2005, it is innocent citizens who tend to pay the highest price.

With all this in mind, with this mess that the GID has helped create, a mess that has damaged our country?s reputation locally, regionally and globally - is it even conceivable that any Jordanian would be held accountable for talking about this issue out loud? For debating it? For questioning it?

Unfortunately, the answer that question is a resounding ?yes?.

Nevertheless, if one is to take anything away from this story as it continues to unfold, it is the fact that Jordan must not only be forthright with its citizens - now more than ever - but that it is also perhaps time to re-examine the costs and benefits of any relationship the state has with the CIA. Naturally, there are elements to such stories we, the greater public, are not privy to, but that is the very point here: being kept in the dark. While national security is a delicate subject, the public has the right to know what is being done in the name of their security and well-being. They have the right to know the cost it comes with. They have a right to question it. Especially with the knowledge that there is much more at stake than mere security when it comes to the GID?s CIA connection. Massive US-driven economic aid to Jordan is just one of the many things that come with a hefty price tag.

The Jordanian public should be made aware of the cost.

And for that matter, so should the Jordanian state.

The former does not require revealing massive state secrets but rather providing necessary information to the public. While the latter is a self-examination I doubt the state is even capable of at this point.

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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 12:49:34 AM »
<<Al-Quieda suffers from a severe lack of imagination.>>

Yeah, you're right, plane, 9-11 was SUCH a pedestrian operation.

<<Although key personell were lost in this Al-Quieda victory , they gave up an asset that could have learned for them volumes of real data and told to the CIA volumes of false data.>>

CU4 gave an excellent reason why this could have been a win for al Qaeda on two fronts, including the "loss" of a "valuable" agent, the other possibility of course is that they have more windows into the CIA than the CIA does into them.

Maybe it's not al Qaeda that is suffering from a severe lack of imagination.



I have learned more about it , and it seems like more of an Al Queda win as I find out more.


Sad , but war is like that. Every Al Queda victory makes the war longer.

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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 02:05:29 PM »
<<Sad , but war is like that. Every Al Queda victory makes the war longer.>>

I think the U.S. would make more progress, and faster progress, towards peace if it looked at the situation from the other end of your perspective:

Every dollar the U.S. gives to prop up repressive, torture-state dictatorships in Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan makes the war longer.

Every dollar the U.S. gives to Israel in "foreign aid" or military assistance makes the war longer.

Every new Jewish home for West Bank settlers or built in East Jerusalem makes the war longer.

Every Jewish expulsion of Arabs from their current homes to make way for new settlements of Jews or Jewish resettlement of Arab buildings makes the war longer.

Every day the Anglo-American occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan continue makes the war longer.

Every Afghan, Pakistani or Iraqi family killed, raped or tortured by Americans makes the war longer.

Focusing on al Qaeda wins as the reason for the war's prolongation is totally absurd.  It completely ignores the inescapable fact that al Qaeda's war is a war of retaliation and reaction, not a cause in and of itself of the hostilities.

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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 04:37:49 PM »
"Every dollar the U.S. gives to prop up repressive, torture-state dictatorships in
Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan makes the war longer"


Michael do you really think the Middle East would be free of repressive regimes if the United States didnt even exist? Would the Middle East be sending craft to outer space and producing life changing inventions if the United States did not exist? Would the Middle East be sending food all over the world if the United States did not exist? Would the Middle East be filled with people enjoying high standards of living and under the rule of wonderful benevolent non-corrupt torture free leaders if the United States did not exist? Get real.
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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 05:24:47 PM »
Here's another theory on the killing of the CIA operatives and perhaps even their little Jordanian pal, if in fact his role was something other than as portrayed in the official story of the "tragedy."  From what is said to be a Russian intelligence report on the incident on which the following article is based (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gJhEcHHops0gD6qyRhMMvKL4yZAA)

In a massacre which has received almost no press in the U.S.A. but has generated widespread Afghan protests and considerable media outside the U.S.A., "non-military Americans" massacred 11 Afghan civilians, eight of them schoolboys, who were killed "execution-style" by gunshots to the head while handcuffed in a room of their house.  Apparently most of the schoolboys were brothers from one family.  Understandably, the Afghans were enraged by this latest American atrocity and "President" Hamid Karzai was demanding that the Americans responsible for the massacre be turned over to Afghan authorities.  Also enraged were NATO allies, who laid down some kind of ultimatum to Obama.

Obama, to appease Karzai and the Europeans, had the CIA operatives responsible for the massacre killed by a Special Forces unit which invaded their compound and shot them all, blowing up the bodies to match the official story of a "suicide bomber" who against all expectations somehow penetrated compound security and blew the bastards up.

How credible is the story?  I don't know.  It does seem strange that the massacre of the schoolboys, which excited so much anger in Afghanistan, received almost no publicity in the US MSM.  It also seems strange that a "suicide bomber" was so easily able to penetrate the security of a CIA base in hostile Afghan territory where suicide bombing is one of the leading causes of death (next to IEDs) in the area.  There's a certain logic to the story, but it's hard to imagine how the story could be hushed up by the Special Forces' executioners, especially given the traditional hostility of the military to Obama and his political alllies.  At this point I'd have to say, more likely not true than true, but still a possible explanation.

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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 05:28:41 PM »
 ::)


Maybe Oliver Stone can make something of that
« Last Edit: January 07, 2010, 05:34:23 PM by sirs »
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2010, 05:41:03 PM »
<<Michael do you really think the Middle East would be free of repressive regimes if the United States didnt even exist? >>

The Middle East being the Middle East, probably not.  The issue, however, is not the existence of a repressive regime, but the existence of an American-puppet repressive regime, versus a repressive regime more representative of Arab interests, more responsive to the wishes of what the citizens of the country want, not what the US President wants.

<<Would the Middle East be sending craft to outer space and producing life changing inventions if the United States did not exist? >>

Honestly, CU4, that question is just meaningless.  The average Arab does not give a shit about spacecraft and "life-changing inventions," but he DOES get very upset when he sees pictures of Jews flocking into Israel from all over the world, bulldozing Arab houses, putting Arab families out in the street, firing tank shell through their bedroom windows and building new homes for themselves after forcing the Arabs to flee from their homes.

<<Would the Middle East be sending food all over the world if the United States did not exist? >>

What on earth makes you think the people of the Middle East want to send food all over the world?  A large part of the U.S. wealth is based on forced extraction of Third World resources, oil included, and I think the average Arab would be happy if they were just allowed to grow their own food, or buy it with the proceeds of the sale of their own oil, and the U.S. could keep its fucking food and just leave them the fuck alone.

<<Would the Middle East be filled with people enjoying high standards of living and under the rule of wonderful benevolent non-corrupt torture free leaders if the United States did not exist? >>

In the real world, they'd be enjoying leadership that could concentrate on serving their interests, instead of the present system of tyrannical sell-outs whose only way to stay in power is to serve US and British interests, regardless of what their own people want.  You seem to think that every one of their subjects has your odd way of looking at the whole thing "philosophically" and concluding in effect, "Well if this leader of ours weren't bought off by the US and we were free to pick our own leaders, they'd be just as bad as him."

I can't tell you how unrealistic and foolish this is.  You respect yourself enough to believe that you can pick good leaders for yourselves without having foreign powers impose them on you.  Why would you think an Egyptian or a Jordanian would have any less self-respect?  Why do you think they (but not you) would figure, "Well, might as well let the US dictate to us who our leaders will be, because we are so fucking dumb that if we're left to our own decisions, we'll only pick a guy who's just as bad?"

<<Get real.>>

You are the one who needs to get real, CU4.  You can't even grasp the basic concept that people in the Middle East want to govern themselves just as badly as you want to govern yourselves, and will resent foreigners who interfere in their country and support tyrannical governments that oppress them.  

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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2010, 06:15:59 PM »
a repressive regime more representative of Arab interests, more responsive to the wishes of what the citizens of the country want

Really? Repressive regimes are responsive to their citizens' needs?
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2010, 06:36:19 PM »

<<Really? Repressive regimes are responsive to their citizens' needs?>>

Sure.  Look at Hitler.  Didn't he give the Germans jobs, self-respect, anti-communism, anti-Semitism, autobahns, nationalism, militarism, architecture?  Not what every German wanted, but lots of them did, and he played to their wants.  Revenge for the humiliations of Versailles.  Revenge for the capitulation of 1918.  Get back the Saar.  "Save" the Germans of Czechoslovakia.  Preserve the purity of the race.  Lebensraum.

Or Saddam - - gave 'em universal free education, JK to grad school, even at foreign universities,  free medical and dental care, one of the highest standards of living in the Middle East, alcohol, nightclubs, miniskirts, a secular government. 

You don't get any more repressive than those two.

A good repressive dictator tries to keep 'em all happy.  Why not?  Makes his job easier.  Who's gonna oppose a sugar daddy?

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Re: Jordanian Doubt-Agent Carried Out Afghan CIA Bombing
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2010, 06:41:25 PM »
On the other hand (going back to theories of who killed those CIA torturers and/or contract killers in Afghanistan) the widow of the guy who is blamed in the official version sure seems to support the official version:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/100107/world/afghanistan_unrest_us_jordan_turkey

<<ISTANBUL (AFP) - The Turkish wife of the Jordanian suicide bomber who killed seven CIA agents in Afghanistan expressed pride on Thursday in what he had done.

<<"I am proud of my husband. He carried out a great operation in this war. I hope Allah will accept his martyrdom, if he has become a martyr," Defne Bayrak told reporters in Istanbul, where she lives.

<<"I am not ashamed. He did this against the American occupation" of Afghanistan, she said, the Turkish news agency Anatolia reported.
Bayrak's husband, Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, blew himself up at a US military base near the Pakistani border on December 30 in the deadliest attack against the Central Intelligence Agency since 1983.>>