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« on: January 05, 2010, 11:17:59 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2010, 02:35:57 PM »
C-SPAN Challenges Congress to Open Health Care Talks to TV Coverage

The head of C-SPAN has implored Congress to open up the last leg of health care reform negotiations to the public, as top Democrats lay plans to hash out the final product among themselves.

C-SPAN CEO Brian Lamb wrote to leaders in the House and Senate Dec. 30 urging them to open "all important negotiations, including any conference committee meetings," to televised coverage on his network.

"The C-SPAN networks will commit the necessary resources to covering all of the sessions LIVE and in their entirety," he wrote.

Congressional leaders, however, reportedly are expected to bypass the traditional conference committee process, in which lawmakers from both parties and chambers meet to reconcile differences between the House and Senate versions of a bill. Instead, The Associated Press reports that top Democrats at the House, Senate and White House will figure out the final product in three-way talks before sending it back to both chambers for a final vote.

This format would seem ideal for closed-door meetings, which congressional Democrats have used many times to figure out sensitive provisions in the health care bill -- though President Obama pledged during the campaign to open up health care talks to C-SPAN's cameras.

"That's what I will do in bringing all parties together, not negotiating behind closed doors, but bringing all parties together, and broadcasting those negotiations on C-SPAN so that the American people can see what the choices are," Obama said at a debate against Hillary Clinton in Los Angeles on Jan. 31, 2008.

Lamb urged Congress in his letter to fling open the doors in the final stretch of the negotiations.

"President Obama, Senate and House leaders, many of your rank-and-file members, and the nation's editorial pages have all talked about the value of transparent discussions on reforming the nation's health care system," he wrote. "Now that the process moves to the critical stage of reconciliation between the chambers, we respectfully request that you allow the public full access, through television, to legislation that will affect the lives of every single American."

Lamb said his network would use "the latest technology" to be "as unobtrusive as possible" during the talks.


What do you think the Dems are afraid of?
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2010, 05:25:28 PM »
Know when a politician lies?.............

"The Democrats intend to lead the most honest, most open and most ethical congress in history."....Nancy Pelosi, 2006, after Democrats took over majority control of Congress
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2010, 06:32:37 PM »
This week both the Washington Times and the Wall Street Journal reported that there?s a good chance the Democrats will bypass a formal conference committee to hash out the differences between the House and Senate health care bills and instead, create a final bill out of the public eye and behind closed doors.

Since both chambers passed two different bills, negotiators must work to pass one uniform bill before it can be sent to the President for his signature. Votes in both the House and Senate were extremely tight and several issues must be reconciled before final passage including abortion, taxes, cuts to Medicare, and the public option. It appears the Democrats wish to do this outside of public scrutiny to speed up the process in hopes of getting it done and signed into law before the President makes his State of the Union speech. This is far from Mr. Obama?s pledge to keep the health care reform process open and transparent.


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Re: So much for ...
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2010, 10:41:30 PM »
...transparency


Whaddaya wanna bet Obama gets to write a new "Profiles in Courage" book after this.

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2010, 10:52:14 PM »
Actually, when you think about it, Obama IS keeping his promise about transparency.

Anybody with a brain can see right through this.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2010, 01:57:48 AM »
Boy, ain't that the truth
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2010, 12:33:12 PM »
Anyone keeping count?
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2010, 06:27:01 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 11:57:36 AM »
(CBS)  President Obama wants the final negotiations on health care reform - a reconciliation of the House and Senate versions of the bill - put on a fast track, even if that means breaking an explicit campaign promise.

"The House and Senate plan to put together the final health care reform bill behind closed doors according to an agreement by top Democrats," House Speaker Nanci Pelosi said today at the White House.

The White House is on board with that, too, reports CBS News political correspondent Chip Reid. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs stressed today that "the president wants to get a bill to his desk as quickly as possible." 

During the campaign, though, candidate Obama regularly promised something different - to broadcast all such negotiations on C-SPAN, putting the entire process of pounding out health care reform out in the open. (That promise applied to the now-completed processing of forging House and Senate bills, too.)

Back when Republicans controlled Congress and George W. Bush was in the White House, it was Democrats who angrily complained about secret backroom deals.

Now the roles are reversed.

"The negotiations are obviously being done in secret and the American people really just want to know what they are trying to hide," said Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga.

Even with no cameras and no Republicans in the room it will be a tall order for the House and Senate to resolve their differences - especially on abortion coverage and how to pay for health reform

Even so, top Democrats in both houses say they hope to have the final bill ready for the president's signature in time for his State of the Union address - less than four weeks from now.


Promises?...what promises
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 07:55:52 PM »






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Re: So much for ...
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2010, 02:25:56 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2010, 05:06:57 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2010, 01:16:45 PM »
More of that impressive transparency at work.  Let's see who else Obama & the Dems need to buy off.
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Re: So much for ...
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2010, 03:25:11 PM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle