Civilizations do not fall to the power of enemies

[The_Professor]

Reaction continues: the Muslims are now calling for the removal of the Pope, because he quoted a Byzantine Emperor who was watching as the Muslims, in the name of their peaceful religion, were reducing many of the fairest provinces of the Empire to waste and ruin. Now in an effort to show us how civilized they are, they shoot nuns on the steps of their clinics, burn churches, and call for the removal of the Pope; and if there is any opposition to this among the Muslims, it is hard to find. It is one thing to note that most cannot possibly feel this way; it is quite another to see that they either do not care to dissent, or are afraid to.

Civilizations do not fall to the power of enemies. They fall due to the timidity or lack of will of the defenders; or to both. The West appears to be both; few defend our defenders, further reducing their ranks. And in the name of diversity we invite the enemy within the gates, and even allow the enemy a turn at being keeper of the keys to the citadel.

[Plane]

That is a point , but in the civilization of the Muslim , who is defending the civility of their civilization?


Building a worldwide reputation for anti-intellectualism can't be good for the state of ones civilization.



When I was in Jordan I was treated very well, in the best tradition of hospitality that Muslims used to be famous for, I hope that they can get this back instead of getting famous as "unstable and dangerous" .

[The_Professor]

"That is a point , but in the civilization of the Muslim , who is defending the civility of their civilization?"

I don't know; who is? Where is the voice of the "moderate"? I do not read them in any newspaper source. Do you? Where are the Muslim "moderates" who will speak up?

As far as your other point, they must respect intellectualism more than they let on, or they would not be able to produce nucaer weaponry, etc.

[_JS]

Civilizations do not fall to the power of enemies.

Really? And just how did the Byzantine Empire fall?

I don't know; who is? Where is the voice of the "moderate"? I do not read them in any newspaper source. Do you? Where are the Muslim "moderates" who will speak up?

Ever wonder why you don't read about them in newspapers? How many newspapers would make good copy by reporting on moderate Islam? What newspapers do you read?

[kimba1]

What nlittle I`ve read of the moderates.
they seem to be on losing ground.
even in israel the moderates there are getting pushed around.