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Does Obama have any political capital left?
« on: January 20, 2010, 01:55:29 AM »
He goes to NJ, it goes GOP
He goes to Virginia, it goes GOP
He goes to Copenhagen, no treaty, no Olympics, no nothing

And now he goes to the bluest of blue states, Mass.  You simply have to have a (D) after your name, and you'll get elected.  It goes GOP

Yea, he's still President......but




His 1 term can't end fast enough
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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2010, 02:08:25 AM »
GHWBush had a 90% approval rating two years before he lost to Clinton.

It's premature to get too cocky.

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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2010, 11:44:34 AM »
it all depends who we nominate.....

if we allow Iowa and other early primary states
to nominate some old codger that looks and speaks
like hell....Obama will win again even with reduced
political capital.....we need to find and nominate
young, articulate, good looking, sell-able candidates.
thats exactly what the Taxocrats did with Obama.
Obama basically came out of no-where....we need
to learn that lesson or we'll keep getting our ass
kicked.

« Last Edit: January 20, 2010, 11:57:54 AM by ChristiansUnited4LessGvt »
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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2010, 11:54:31 AM »
He goes to NJ, it goes GOP
He goes to Virginia, it goes GOP
He goes to Copenhagen, no treaty, no Olympics, no nothing

And now he goes to the bluest of blue states, Mass.  You simply have to have a (D) after your name, and you'll get elected.  It goes GOP

Yea, he's still President......but




His 1 term can't end fast enough

not to mention his Asia trip went bust
his back to Copenhagen trip for Global Warming produced nada, zilch zero
his Climate Change Bill is destined to fail
he lost the Senate super majority
his Health Care Bill is a failure if past or not past
he has been exposed as just another politician, same old same old
a proven liar

what more do you want

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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2010, 12:37:58 PM »
GHWBush had a 90% approval rating two years before he lost to Clinton.  It's premature to get too cocky.

It's much easier to sink than to climb, Bt.  Obama's policies pretty much guarantee a continuation of a stagnant, if not downward economy, increasing unemployment, and a severely increasing level of debt, not to mention this spectacle of a circus trial for terrorists in NY, we'll have to endure
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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 12:43:49 PM »
GHWBush had a 90% approval rating two years before he lost to Clinton.  It's premature to get too cocky.

It's much easier to sink than to climb, Bt.  Obama's policies pretty much guarantee a continuation of a stagnant, if not downward economy, increasing unemployment, and a severely increasing level of debt, not to mention this spectacle of a circus trial for terrorists in NY, we'll have to endure

he has lost independents -- he's done, washed up. He's going forward with his liberal/socialist agenda full-steam so by the time it's over he will have lost 1/2 his party too. He's done, I know it, he doesn't though

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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 01:43:44 PM »
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It's much easier to sink than to climb, Bt.

If the economy turns around convincingly by 2012 he has a good chance.

He will do what Clinton did. Move to the center until after the mid-terms, because that is where congress is going.


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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2010, 01:50:30 PM »
*chuckle*, I think you missed the part where his policies will still be in place, ie. increased taxation, increased regulation, increased debt.  I have no doubt that the economy may try to move upward, but while a President can't do much to turn an economy upwards, Government can sure do a hell of a lot to send it downwards.  Which is precisely what the Dems have been doing to it, since they took majority status
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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2010, 02:29:46 PM »
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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2010, 02:54:24 PM »
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*chuckle*, I think you missed the part where his policies will still be in place, ie. increased taxation, increased regulation, increased debt.  I have no doubt that the economy may try to move upward, but while a President can't do much to turn an economy upwards, Government can sure do a hell of a lot to send it downwards.  Which is precisely what the Dems have been doing to it, since they took majority status

And i think you missed the part where perception is reality. So if one perceives that they now have a job when 2 months ago they didn't, then regulation, national debt and taxation take a back burner to the immediate joy of not having to live on the streets, and rightly or wrongly they will credit Obama for their circumstances.

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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2010, 03:00:09 PM »
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It's much easier to sink than to climb, Bt.

If the economy turns around convincingly by 2012 he has a good chance.

He will do what Clinton did. Move to the center until after the mid-terms, because that is where congress is going.



He's an ideologue so you won't see a move to the center nope he's staying on course.

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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2010, 03:39:52 PM »
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I think you missed the part where his policies will still be in place, ie. increased taxation, increased regulation, increased debt.  I have no doubt that the economy may try to move upward, but while a President can't do much to turn an economy upwards, Government can sure do a hell of a lot to send it downwards.  Which is precisely what the Dems have been doing to it, since they took majority status

And i think you missed the part where perception is reality. So if one perceives that they now have a job when 2 months ago they didn't, then regulation, national debt and taxation take a back burner to the immediate joy of not having to live on the streets, and rightly or wrongly they will credit Obama for their circumstances.

Yes, for many perception is reality, and that 1 person who may now have a job, where 2 months ago they didn't, may indeed wrongly give credit to Obama.  The 10others who lost their job to that 1 who got a remployed, and the hundreds more still out of a job, may likely also give such "credit" to Obama.  And there in lies the point I'm making
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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2010, 04:29:29 PM »
The employment situation is fluid and as more people reenter the workforce the better the chances of Obama being reelected.


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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2010, 04:43:33 PM »
The employment situation is fluid and as more people reenter the workforce the better the chances of Obama being reelected.



I doubt it

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Re: Does Obama have any political capital left?
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 04:43:42 PM »
He's an ideologue so you won't see a move to the center nope he's staying on course.

I agree Obama is much more of an ideologue than Clinton, possibly even a radical,
but the economy is cyclical and since it is at the bottom maybe it has no where
to go but up? So if the economy even improves a little it will help Obama.

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