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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2010, 08:08:21 PM »
Are corporations made up of persons?

Yes, but those persons already have rights individually.



So what is the limit for one of those persons to use the resorces of the company for his individual free speech?

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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2010, 09:28:18 PM »
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So what is the limit for one of those persons to use the resorces of the company for his individual free speech?

I'm not sure one of those persons can use corporate resources for his individual free speech.

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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2010, 10:40:24 PM »

Either target everyone or no one


No, simply target no one, because the Constitution prohibits the government from doing so.
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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2010, 10:41:37 PM »
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So what is the limit for one of those persons to use the resorces of the company for his individual free speech?

I'm not sure one of those persons can use corporate resources for his individual free speech.

Doesn't that describe the editorial page of a newspaper or Magazine?


Lets you and I found such a company , I will let you use the company jet for skywriting political messages on Mondays , Wendsdays , Fridays and alternate Sundays .

But I want to use it election day , I will rent it from you if this happens on one of your days.


Maybe over Braves home games too, when they are playing the Dodgers or Twins especially.

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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2010, 11:12:32 PM »
I'm beginning to think that public finance of campaigns needs to be the way to go.

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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2010, 11:17:22 PM »
Not with the MSM bias that currently permeates the American landscape
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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2010, 11:28:15 PM »
I'm beginning to think that public finance of campaigns needs to be the way to go.


Then we will need a panel empowered to choose the canadates.

Unchosen canadates will have no finances, little chance to be elected.

For a Government to choose its own members is incestuous.

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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2010, 12:24:04 AM »
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Then we will need a panel empowered to choose the canadates.

Why. That's what primaries and elections are for.

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Unchosen canadates will have no finances, little chance to be elected.

Depends on what level of government you start at. Palin leveraged the PTA to a Council seat.

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For a Government to choose its own members is incestuous.

The governed choose the government. Where the funding comes from shouldn't matter. What would make a difference is the need to sell votes in exchange for election or reelection.


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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2010, 02:07:32 AM »

Where the funding comes from shouldn't matter.


It does if you plan on forcing people to pay for election campaigns.
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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2010, 02:51:37 AM »
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It does if you plan on forcing people to pay for election campaigns.

Last i saw on the 1040 the check box for campaign finance was voluntary.


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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2010, 02:20:44 PM »
Will it still be voluntary if you eliminate private financing of campaigns?
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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2010, 03:44:33 PM »
Will it still be voluntary if you eliminate private financing of campaigns?

Don't see why not.

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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2010, 05:16:28 PM »
And when the government decides it's not bringing in enough money to pay for the campaigns?
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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2010, 06:38:50 PM »
And when the government decides it's not bringing in enough money to pay for the campaigns?

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They would simply divide the money received equally. It is pretty easy to do that.

We have way too much advertising during campaigns now. The price goes up with the demand. Less demand would mean a reduction in prices.

I favor telling the media companies that they must donate airtime equally to all candidates in return for using the public airwaves.
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Re: Justice Clarence Thomas vigorously defended campaign finance decision
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2010, 09:08:46 PM »
And when the government decides it's not bringing in enough money to pay for the campaigns?
They raise the amount in the check box. They have done it before. But what they haven't done is force anyone to contribute.