March on Washington to tell president to quit

[Amianthus]

Look, CU4. According to the US Department of State, the following is required to prove birth in the US for purposes of obtaining a passport:

"PROOF OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP

"a. APPLICANTS BORN IN THE UNITED STATES: Submit a previous U.S. passport or certified birth certificate. A birth certificate must include your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records."

Now here is the link to the high quality photo of the certified birth certificate: http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg

Here is the high quality photo of the notary certification: http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_9.jpg and the embossed seal of the notary: http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_1.jpg

Compare the requirements for proof of birth in the United States as defined by the Department of State with the elements visible in the photos, and tell us which is missing. I'll be happy to point it out to you, because they're all in there. According to Federal Regulations, Obama meets the test of having been born in the United States.

[Christians4LessGvt]

[*snicker*......trying to equate a vetted process of determining a U.S. Citizenship status vs Hawaiian Ancestry status, with that of fighting Slavery is a bit.........well, I'll just leave it at that       

You claim because something "now stands", has been discussed, and is currently legal it must be.
I say WRONG!

[BT]

Would a person born on a US Indian Reservation be eligible for the Presidency?

[sirs]

[*snicker*......trying to equate a vetted process of determining a U.S. Citizenship status vs Hawaiian Ancestry status, with that of fighting Slavery is a bit.........well, I'll just leave it at that       

You claim because something "now stands", has been discussed, and is currently legal it must be.
I say WRONG!

Again, your issue is apparently with the laws as they now stand.  Fine, lobby your congress critters to change them.  Currently, Obama has met the legal & CONSTITUTIONAL requirements to be POTUS.  It is however a bit....overt....in your effort to compare this with the fight against slavery.  Yes, at one time that was legal, but are you seriously trying to equate the 2??

[Christians4LessGvt]

"Now here is the link to the high quality photo of the certified birth certificate"

AMI.....this is not the "birth certificate" as you claim.

These are all legal terms..you claim it is the "birth certificate",
but it's not..... it is the "Certification of Live Birth".

The "Certification of Live Birth" (known in the trade as a "COLB"),
is not the original birth certificate or a "long form" certificate
that contain more information.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Again, your issue is apparently with the laws as they now stand. 

Yes SIRS thats how the courts work, they listen to the facts and decide
whether laws are being enforced and decide is something currently legal
should be illegal.

Fine, lobby your congress critters to change them. 

HELLO?...Thats exactly what we are doing....except we seek remedy in the courts.
We are using our constitutional rights to change an injustice...
Just like Americans have done for centuries.
History shows.....sometimes you must try try again until the courts remedy an injustice.
But for some reason people like you and AMI dont seem to like that.
You demand ...we "get to the back of the bus and shut up"
Ask me if I care!....LOL

Currently, Obama has met the legal & CONSTITUTIONAL requirements to be POTUS.

Well SIRS obviously the man is President....lol...and for the time being sits in the Oval Office.

Like I previously stated.....hell yeah he's winning now.....I am not denying reality.

What I am denying is whether he qualifies to be President according to the US Constitution if the
real facts become known......

It is however a bit....overt....in your effort to compare this with the fight against slavery. 
Yes, at one time that was legal, but are you seriously trying to equate the 2??

Oh quit being stupid.
I am using analogy.
You say "it's legal now...so well that settles it".
I say "no"...thats doesnt settle it as history clearly shows.

SIRS....I guess "we'll see". 

[Christians4LessGvt]

Would a person born on a US Indian Reservation be eligible for the Presidency?

Since Indian reservations are soveriegn nations, seperate from the U.S., I don't know.
Good question....
I think they are US Citzens.....but legally do they hold dual citizenships?

[sirs]

Again, your issue is apparently with the laws as they now stand. 

Yes SIRS thats how the courts work, they listen to the facts and decide whether laws are being enforced and decide is something currently legal should be illegal.
[/quote]

Wrong branch.  You need to lobby your legislators, since currently Obama's paperwork adheres to the current legal reequirements to be POTUS.  Good luck.  And yes, your overt "analogy" was a bit, shall I say, hyberbolic, IMHO

[Christians4LessGvt]

Hera ya go BT

(thats why i love this place...learn something every day!)

Do American Indians and Alaska Natives Have the Right to Hold Federal, State, and Local Government Offices?

American Indians and Alaska Natives have the same rights as all citizens to hold public office. In this century, American Indian and Alaska Native men and women have held elected and appointed offices at all levels of state, local, and federal government.

http://www.justice.gov/otj/nafaqs.htm#otj22

[Christians4LessGvt]

Wrong branch. 

Not really....in fact SIRS we are doing both!
There have been actions in both the judicial and legislative branches on this subject.

[Amianthus]

AMI.....this is not the "birth certificate" as you claim.

Yes, it is. It meets the legal requirements of the Department of State. Please indicate which items required by the Department of State for proof of birth in the US are missing if you feel it is missing something.

These are all legal terms..you claim it is the "birth certificate",
but it's not..... it is the "Certification of Live Birth".

The "Certification of Live Birth" (known in the trade as a "COLB"),
is not the original birth certificate or a "long form" certificate
that contain more information.

The additional information would only be required to prove that he's a native Hawaiian, which is not a requirement by the US Constitution for the President.

[Amianthus]

I think they are US Citzens.....but legally do they hold dual citizenships?

Yes, they do. As do I. And I meet the requirements to become President.

[sirs]

Wrong branch. 

Not really....in fact SIRS we are doing both!  There have been actions in both the judicial and legislative branches on this subject.

The problem again is the Judicial system is designed to deal with a conflict in the law, not to write new legislation.  Again, your issue is with current law as it stands.  Currently you merely need to prove U.S. Citizenship to be POTUS, not a specific ancestry.  And that is the domain of the Legislative branch.  At least for the Conservative minded folks

[Christians4LessGvt]

The problem again is the Judicial system is designed to deal with
a conflict in the law, not to write new legislation.

And I think BOTH are present in this case and obviously you don't.

I think Obama was not born in the US.

I think that issue could be resolved in a court.

But I also think we could clarify exact procedures in the legislative branch
to make sure another non-US born President is ever elected again.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Yes, it is.

No it is not.
It clearly states at the top of the document what it is.

The additional information would only be required to prove that he's a native Hawaiian,
which is not a requirement by the US Constitution for the President.

Wrong.....about "only be required"....it could easily "be required" by a court of law
if that court decided there was just reason to question whether Obama was indeed
born in the United States.

Now whether that happens or not I have already stated....I am doubtful it will
anytime soon......so yeah Obama is the "legal" President just like the Slave Owner
was legal too.