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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2010, 06:20:32 PM »
In other words, nothing more than your mere speculation on the claim "At the end of the housing bubble, nearly all sales were to flippers"

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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2010, 06:45:25 PM »
Ticket scalpers are also scum. I won't do business with them OR Ticketbastard. It's like
saying that the market demands three card monte players, because there are suckers
who still fall for them. [/b]

And can you explain why they are "scum" any more than you are or anyone
else in the free market that has a product they sell where there is a willing
buyer and a willing seller?

Scalpers make dreams happen for people....willing people that choose to use them
People that have virtually no chance of getting front row seats
Can use a scalper service and treat their bride on their anniversary.

Oh I am sure if the "market value" (face value) of your house or car was X amount
but if someone really, really, really, really just had to have it and offered you 5
times the X anmount you'd say "no thats not fair...I couldnt sell it to you for all that money".

I want excellent seats for events I attend.

I work 60 hours a week and have no interest or time for standing in lines or other ways to get excellent seating.

So as a willing buyer I pay ticket brokers or individuals on e-bay/Craigslist
to figure out a way to get the best seats in the house....then we come
together as a willing buyer and a willing seller to make a transaction.
Thats how the free market works.

You can call me a "sucker" if you want, whatever floats your boat.
But at this point in my life I want to be in the some of the best seats in the house.
I work hard and that is one of my enjoyments.
Obviously it's not as important to you.
Fine, but I do not understand the need to demonize as "scum" people that have different likes/dislikes from you.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2010, 06:48:16 PM by ChristiansUnited4LessGvt »
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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2010, 07:37:25 PM »
Stub Hub !!    8)
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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2010, 07:44:29 PM »
I like StubHub....their service charges are high...
but they have a great selection....very quick shipping
I would say I use them the most because of selection, details, & reputation

i just bought tickets & parking pass to a Motorcross event from them
never been to a motorcross....should be interesting
oh to be 17 again and fly thru the air like those kids do

« Last Edit: March 02, 2010, 07:47:58 PM by ChristiansUnited4LessGvt »
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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2010, 07:48:08 PM »
See, Capitalism in one of its fine forms.  One can pay the higher charges, but they get greater selection.  I love that part.  We got tickets to fan appreciation day for the last Angels' game, but knowing it's going to be a midday game, in the Sept sun, meant I had to make sure to get tickets in the Terrace View section, which is always shaded.  Without such selection, its a crap shoot, even just to get tickets
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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2010, 07:53:57 PM »
I actually think Ticketmaster and other ticket companies should auction off the best seats.

That would be the real free market and deterimine the tickets value.

I think Ticketmaster is doing some of that with it's "TicketsNow" division.

Why should Ticketmaster sell a front row seat for the same price as
a 15th row seat?

Obviously the value is different for those seats.

Ticketmaster by selling seats of far different values for the same price allow
scalpers to exist as "middle men"....when really if the market value for a 3rd
row Rolling Stones concert is really $500....why should Ticketmaster let it go for $175?
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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2010, 08:39:05 PM »
ticket masters provide a service alot like travel agencies.
by thier very nature they increase the cost of said items

but the presence of the internet should wipe them out.

people should be able to get tickets directly from the source at better prices but somhow some business prefer to only sell them from ticketmasters with the added service fees.

ex. alot of concerts do this

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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2010, 10:09:54 PM »
ticket masters provide a service alot like travel agencies.
people should be able to get tickets directly from the source

Yeah i wouldnt be opposed to having more options
however dont forget people can book plane tickets & hotel rooms directly from the source
but yet they many times reserve through 3rd parties like Expedia and Orbitz
so "direct from source" doesnt always mean cheaper
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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2010, 12:35:30 AM »
that`s true

it doesn`t make abit of sense why getting it from the source isn`t cheaper
even merchandise is cheaper elsewhere

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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2010, 12:55:44 AM »
Again, I think flippers and scalpers  and Ticketbastard are scum, and their customers are suckers.


I'd rather watch someone repair an engine or refinish furniture or do ANYTHING useful to watch a bunch of middle aged clowns play with a ball.


I'll buy a CD over a concert ticket any day.
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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2010, 02:54:13 AM »
well
it depends on the concert

I really hate it that some groups are over an hour late and it`s acceptable.
ex. guns and roses

that just mean to me people with jobs should not bother going to concerts.


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Re: Ready for a double-dip downward spiral in housing? (Not good for Obama)
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2010, 08:26:32 AM »

watch a bunch of middle aged clowns play with a ball.

Yeah...I much prefer the college game!
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