NYT: U.S. Approves Killing of American Cleric

[Michael Tee]

<<To your point? I don't care if they capture, kill, or fuck him. >>

Basically then you don't give a shit about the 5th Amendment.  It doesn't apply to anyone you don't like.

[BT]

BT, kick this shithead out of here. 

On what grounds?

[Plane]

<<To the right of "1 of 3" there is a link labeled "Next >". I would have thought it would be obvious.>>

Ooops, you're right.  Sorry, guys.

 
<<You're so much smarter than us . . . >>

"Better informed" is probably the phrase you're looking for, I wouldn't say "smarter."  I think some a you guys are pretty
smart, but totally brainwashed.

<<you must be too smart to understand such simple stuff.>>

Frankly, I don't see what smartness has to do with it - - the "next" link was positioned far to the extreme right, much like you guys in here, and I simply missed it.  You're more observant than I am.  BFD.  Get over it, for chrissakes.   Seeing the link in an unexpected place, apart from the main body of text, does not a genius make.

That explains it , ....

We should expect anything on the extreme right to fall into your blind side.

[Michael Tee]

Lotsa things fall into my blind spot now, plane.  I got a $130 ticket a few weeks ago and the cop asked me, "Did you not see the sign or did you not see me?" and I had to admit I did not see him OR the sign."  Never happened to me before in my life, I've always seen either one or the other.

[Plane]

Warn me before you drive through Ga.

[Michael Tee]

Don't worry, any Canadian driving through Georgia pays a LOT of attention to every sign on the road.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Amazing how many times they can lie to you outrageously and yet you will still believe everything else they say.  there's a word for that somewhere - - sucka.

what....
kinda like "the money in Social Security is in a trust fund and we wont blow it all & make the system insolvent"
or
"dont worry the more us feds get involved in education the scores won't go down...we here to protect"
or
"don't worry we wont spend more than we take in & make the US a debtor nation after massive fiscal irresponsibility"
or
"don't worry we do such a great job controlling our borders, now we wanna take over your healthcare too"
or
"trust us ...we're going to lessen our dependence on foreign oil"
or
"dont worry about the colossal failure of government at every level...federal, state, & local after Katrina....we's just needs mo money!"
or
"don't worry we'll believe it when President Bill Clinton declares "The era of big government is over" before gvt growth
explodes & eventually takes over healthcare....."
or
"dont worry that both political parties are corrupt, just give us more money & power to solve your problems"
or
"it doesn't matter that we didnt read the healthcare bill, lets just vote on it"
or
"trust us we wont lose hundreds of laptops with sensitive national security info, personal census info, ect"
or
"trust us Iran wont get nukes"
or
"trust us we'll oversight Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and HUD...everything's ok"
or
"trust us...we protect you...like buying FEMA trailers filled with formaldehyde"
or
"trust us we pledge more transparency...as we do more backroom deals to get bills passed"
or
"trust us we pledge to prohibit lobbyists and then we hire at least 40 lobbyist to work in senior positions
including three Cabinet secretaries and the CIA director"
or
ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect ect x 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

[Michael Tee]

No, CU4, the examples you gave are more like conservative arguments than facts, arguments that might be believed by conservatives but are far from proven facts.  They're more like examples of government incompetence and failure than outright lies, and in fact in many of the examples, they rely on vague accusations that aren't even factual (S.S.'s alleged "insolvency," the "colossal failure of government at every level," etc.) which are just windy accusations that are ridiculous on their face.  Particular failures in one matter or another become "colossal failure on all levels," etc.

No, I was referring to one particular source of lies and bullshit that never fails to be caught again and again lying to the people and yet is still believed by some; the U.S. military:
 - the torture at Abu Ghraib is an unauthorized aberration and represents "a few bad apples."
 - our warships in the Gulf of Tonkin were attacked by North Vietnamese patrol boats
 - We know where the WMD are
 - These photos show Iraqi troops massing on the Saudi border
 - We only waterboarded him three times (I forget the guy's name and it was 183 times)
 - the folks we killed while taking fuel from the tankers were all armed insurgents
 - the bound and gagged schoolkids (murdered by U.S. troops) were armed insurgents
 - so were the women of the house, (also murdered by U.S. troops) armed insurgents
 - the 14-year-old girl was raped and murdered by Sunni insurgents, who also murdered the rest of her family
   including her six-year-old sister and set fire to the bodies (of course, U.S. Marines were actually   
   responsible, a fact which only came to light when one of them couldn't hold his shit together)
 - no, they weren't armed insurgents, they were killed by accident in a gun battle (that never happened)
 - the fifteen people killed from helicopter gunships in New Baghdad were killed in a gun battle (a gun battle that also never happened)

You see the difference, CU4?  These are deliberate lies and misrepresentations of things that we now know (because of leaks, accidents, etc.) have occurred differently than as reported by the Pentagon or the DOD.  Lies that would never have come to light except through means beyond the DOD's or the Pentagon's control. Your examples are basically nothing more than a bunch of examples of how conservatives THINK the "liberals" have fucked up the country. 

You offer up conservative arguments, I offer up fact - - lies and the exposure of lies, not about theories or explanations, but about actual concrete events that really happened.

So that is why I say that anyone who STILL believes those lying bastards can ONLY be described in one word, and that one word is - - SUCKA.

[sirs]

As were Cu4's FACTS, so is Tee's latter