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Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« on: April 19, 2010, 09:15:59 PM »
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

I'm sure Mikey will be able to rationalize this some how some way!

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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 01:56:39 PM »
What's to rationalize?  Everybody Knows.

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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 02:30:07 PM »
Nice trend for the plethora of patrons to observe.  Tee responds with a pithy little video, but once again, on a more substantive inquiry, that is at the heart of a debate forum, he is yet again MIA
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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 05:54:36 PM »
question for everyone

as pres. would a million from goldman be enough?

that amount seems insulting to me

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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 08:43:38 PM »
The situation is that even though Goldman contributed $1 million, they still got busted, didn't they?
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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 08:50:15 PM »
Busted?

Is that what we call bailed out and given a bonus now?

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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 08:56:57 PM »
LOL

Anyone also want to remind Xo about how "stern" this administration was with AIG?
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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 09:26:58 PM »
but will AIG last?

bail out does not mean customer/client confidence.

I`m pretty sure AIG today is involuntarily downsized .

and downsize in business mean smaller weaker ,rarely does it mean leaner meaner

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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2010, 09:31:25 PM »
Goldman Sacked up a really good year after the bailout , they are getting some critique right now for one of the products that they sold seeming to be constructed as if intentionally to fail , but there isn't much danger that they will pay enough fine to get out of the black.

Only a few other financial companys are in this league and Goldman is the best fixed of them.


Not bad to recover so fast after nearly falling off the map.

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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 09:46:27 PM »
<<Busted?

<<Is that what we call bailed out and given a bonus now?>>

Umm, no, not really.  It's what we call charged by the SEC with defrauding their own investors.


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/business/2010-04/21/c_13260202.htm

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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 12:38:33 AM »
<<Busted?

<<Is that what we call bailed out and given a bonus now?>>

Umm, no, not really.  It's what we call charged by the SEC with defrauding their own investors.


http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/business/2010-04/21/c_13260202.htm

I heard about that , they are getting some critique right now for one of the products that they sold seeming to be constructed as if intentionally to fail .

But this is being caught by the SEC , what does that have to do with President Obama?

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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2010, 11:02:31 AM »


Is Goldman Obama's Enron? No, it's worse

By: J.P. Freire
Associate Commentary Editor
04/20/10 1:41 PM EDT
  
Campaign contributions from Goldman Sachs employees to President Obama are nearly seven times as much as President Bush received from Enron workers, according to numbers on OpenSecrets.org.

President Bush's connections to Enron were well-hyped during the company's accounting debacle that rippled through the economy. Time magazine even had an article called, "Bush's Enron Problem." The Associated Press ran with the headline, "Bush-backing Enron makes big money off crisis." David Callaway wrote that Enron for Bush was worse than Whitewater for Clinton.

In 2002, the New York Times wrote: "President Bush is seeking to play down his relationship with Enron's embattled chairman, Kenneth L. Lay. But their ties are broad and deep and go back many years, and the relationship has been beneficial to both." (h/t Lachlan Markey)

But the mere $151,722.42 (inflation adjusted) in contributions from Enron-affiliated executives, employees, and PACs to Bush hardly add up to Obama's $1,007,370.85 (inflation adjusted) from Goldman-affiliated executives and employees. That's also not taking into account how much Goldman contributed to Obama cabinet member Hillary Clinton ($415,595.63 inflation adjusted), which was itself almost three times as much as Bush received as well.

It would be fair to say that the total amount the Obama administration has received from those affiliated with Goldman Sachs is ten times that of what Bush received from Enron.

Goldman is being sued for civil fraud by the Securities and Exchange Commission for deliberately putting unwitting clients on the wrong side of a mortgage security trade that had been designed to fail.

UPDATE: It's not even just campaign contributions. There's quite the revolving door. According to our own Tim Carney:

Greg Craig, Obama's first White House counsel, has joined Goldman, we learned this week. He may not have too much pull in the West Wing, which drove him out for hewing too close to Obama's campaign promises, but as a former insider he will provide valuable intelligence to the world's largest investment bank.

Rahm Emanuel, White House chief of staff, was paid $35,000 as a consultant to Goldman while also working as Bill Clinton's top fundraiser. Obama's fundraiser and economic adviser Warren Buffett is very long on Goldman, having bet on them in 2008 in the expectation of a bailout. Mark Patterson, chief of staff to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, was a Goldman Sachs lobbyist until months before joining Team Obama.

What does that add up to? Getting a hand in making the regulations:

Politico quoted a Goldman lobbyist Monday saying, "We're not against regulation. We're for regulation. We partner with regulators." At least three times in Goldman's conference call Tuesday, spokesmen trumpeted the firm's support for more federal control.

Goldman's annual report explicitly endorsed stricter federal capital and liquidity requirements. Goldman reported on the conference call that it holds 15 percent "Tier 1 capital," meaning it is very liquid and not very risky. Goldman can play it safe, you see, without needing a regulation. But regulations prevent smaller competitors from taking the risks needed to compete with Goldman (and every competitor is smaller).

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Is-Goldman-Obamas-Enron-No-its-worse-91613449.html



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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2010, 01:46:41 PM »
All the President's Goldman Sachs Men

While President Obama assails the culture of greed and recklessness practiced by the men of Goldman Sachs, his administration is infested with them. The White House can no more disown Government Sachs than Da Boss-in-chief can disown Chicago politics.

Obama is headed to Wall Street on Thursday to demand "financial regulatory reform" -- just as the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission has filed civil suit against Goldman Sachs for mortgage-related fraud. Question the timing? Darn tootin'. There are no coincidences in the perpetually orchestrated Age of O. Everyone from disgraced former New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer to analysts at the Brookings Institution and Barclays Capital to the GOP leadership and Rush Limbaugh has noted the reeking political opportunism in the air.

As the New York Post reported Tuesday, the Democratic National Committee immediately bought sponsored Internet ads on Google that direct web surfers who type in "Goldman Sachs SEC" to Obama's fundraising site. "It's time to hold the big banks accountable," the money-grubbing DNC message bellows. But just like his crony capitalist predecessor George W. Bush, Obama has relied on Goldman Sachs and Wall Street power brokers to engineer massive government interventions to "rescue" failing businesses with the tax dollars of ordinary Americans.

While irony-challenged Democratic candidates like mob-linked banker Alexi Giannoulias in Illinois (who hopes to fill Obama's old Senate seat) call on Republicans to return their fat-cat Goldman Sachs donations, the Democrats are silent on the $994,795 in Goldman Sachs campaign cash that Obama bagged. The class-warfare Dems are also mum on all the president's Goldman Sachs men sitting in the catbird's seat:

-- Goldman Sachs partner Gary Gensler is Obama's Commodity Futures Trading Commission head. He was confirmed despite heated congressional grilling over his role, as Reuters described it, "as a high-level Treasury official in a 2000 law that exempted the $58 trillion credit default swap market from oversight. The financial instruments have been blamed for amplifying global financial turmoil." Gensler said he was sorry -- hey, it worked for tax cheat Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner -- and was quickly installed to guard the henhouse.

-- Goldman Sachs kept White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel on a $3,000 monthly retainer while he worked as Clinton's chief fundraiser, as first reported by Washington Examiner columnist Tim Carney. The financial titans threw in another $50,000 to become the Clinton primary campaign's top funder. Emanuel received nearly $80,000 in cash from Goldman Sachs during his four terms in Congress -- investments that have reaped untold rewards, as Emanuel assumed a leading role championing the trillion-dollar TARP banking bailout law.

-- Former Goldman Sachs lobbyist Mark Patterson serves under Geithner as his top deputy and overseer of TARP bailout -- $10 billion of which went to Goldman Sachs. Left-leaning government watchdog Melanie Sloan of the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington responded: "It makes it appear that they are saying one thing and doing another." Paul Blumenthal of the Sunlight Foundation noted that, while at Goldman Sachs, Patterson lobbied against executive pay limits that Obama had crusaded for as senator (before, that is, his administration carved out exemptions for AIG). While Patterson agreed to recuse himself on any Goldman Sachs-related issues or related policy concerns, Blumenthal wrote, it "still creates a serious conflict for Geithner, as Treasury is being partly managed by a former Goldman lobbyist. Geithner is also placed in a tough position considering that his chief of staff is limited in the areas in which he can work (supposedly)."

-- Obama's close hometown crony, campaign finance chief and senior adviser Penny Pritzker was head of Superior Bank of Chicago, a subprime specialist that went bust in 2001, leaving more than 1,400 people stripped of their savings after bank officials falsified profit reports. Pritzker's lawyer at O'Melveny and Myers, Tom Donilon, is now Obama's deputy national security adviser. He earned just shy of $4 million representing her and other high-profile meltdown clients including Goldman Sachs.

-- White House National Economic Council head Larry Summers reaped nearly $2.8 million in speaking fees from many of the major financial institutions and government bailout recipients he now polices, including JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Lehman Brothers and Goldman Sachs. A single speech to Goldman Sachs in April 2008 brought in $135,000. Summers has prior experience negotiating government-sponsored bailouts that benefit private concerns. In 1995, he spearheaded a $40 billion Mexican peso bailout that bypassed Congress. Summers personally leaned on the International Monetary Fund to provide nearly $18 billion for the package. Summers' boss, then Secretary of the Treasury Robert Rubin, was former co-chairman of Wall Street giant Goldman Sachs -- the Mexican government's investment banking firm of choice.

Rubin continues to mentor another former employee of his with regular visits and chats -- Treasury Secretary Geithner, who as head of the New York Federal Reserve pushed bailed-out insurance conglomerate AIG to cover up sweetheart deals for investment banks that benefited, you guessed it, Goldman Sachs.

As Obama harangues Wall Street to clean up its house, all the president's Goldman Sachs men have their feet on the coffee table at his


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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2010, 01:50:19 PM »
<<But this is being caught by the SEC , what does that have to do with President Obama?>>

The inference at the top of this thread seems to be that they bought themselves a Get Out of Jail Free card with the $ million they gave to Obama, but the SEC's action seems to indicate that they might have been buying but Obama wasn't selling.

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Re: Goldman Sachs Gave Obama $1 Million
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2010, 02:07:19 PM »
The inference at the top of this thread seems to be that they bought themselves a Get Out of Jail Free card with the $ million they gave to Obama, but the SEC's action seems to indicate that they might have been buying but Obama wasn't selling.

They'll get a slap on the wrist and a fine. Pretty much a "get out of jail free" card.
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