What seperation of Church & State?

[sirs]

Touche' 

Just imagine the howling had Bush made such a comment.  Grounds for impeachment, I would imagine

[BT]

Bush talked about his faith all the time.

[sirs]

Talking about one's faith is not commanding ministers to push specific legislation pending the legislature, in the name of God     

[BT]

You don't think Bush conjoined freedom, liberty and God in his war on terror?

[sirs]

I know for a fact he never commanded pastors to preach to their congregations the holy need to support or not specific legislation, pending congress

[BT]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/baldwin2.html

[Plane]

You don't think Bush conjoined freedom, liberty and God in his war on terror?

Have a quote?

[BT]

"I believe that God wants everybody to be free. That's what I believe. And that's part of my foreign policy. In Afghanistan, I believe that the freedom there is a gift from the Almighty."

2004 October Presidential Debate

[sirs]

Yep, still no command to pastors to educate their flocks.  Just merely a belief of his.  A good one at that

[BT]

Yep, still no command to pastors to educate their flocks.  Just merely a belief of his.  A good one at that

You apparently just skim posts.

A startling television news report from Shreveport, Louisiana has revealed a sinister plot hatched deep inside the diabolical brain cells of the Bush administration to use America's pulpits as promoters of tyranny. That is a strong statement, I know. But it is true.

According to KSLA television in Shreveport, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) intends to use America's preachers to help pave the way for martial law in the event of another terrorist attack upon the United States.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/baldwin2.html

[sirs]

Or more so, I apparently I stick to relevent facts...like actual words uttered from actual folks, be it Bush, Pelosi, or Kagan

[BT]

The relevant fact is the government formed partnerships with the clergy under Bush.

I await your wailing and gnashing of teeth now that you are aware of that horrible breach of the wall.

[sirs]

My wailing will commence at the point you can demonstrate Bush, in his words, pushing pastors to tell their congregations to support x legislation.  Not merely opining his belief system

[BT]

What part of "Clergy Response Team" formed by Bush's Department of Homeland Security doesn't meet your requirement. The response team was official policy, Pelosi's breach was just talk.

[sirs]

Where, anywhere, in this "Clergy Response Team", is there a mandate by Bush that pastors are to push x legislation??

You know Bt, I think you may be getting my POV completely upside down.  You probably are under the belief that I'm claiming what Pelosi did was horrible, was demonstrably below any and every ethical/constitutional belt

Go back to the original post.  It's a demonstration of the horrible double standard in the MSM.  I have no problem with leaders who have a religious foundation.  I even have no problem with politicians encouraging other believers to support x legislation.

I DO have a problem when the MSM paint Bush and company merely expressing their beliefs & hopes, as over the line, like with his Faith Based Initiative efforts, but Pelosi, CLEARLY pushing pastors to educate their congregations to support or denounce x, gives an absolute pass