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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2010, 11:56:04 AM »
My point is that women understand why women would want the freedom to choose.

A recent Gallup poll showed that 49% of women self-identify as "pro-life" as opposed to 44% who self-identify as "pro-choice".
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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2010, 12:47:06 PM »
some women are pro-choice because of guilt
they had an abortion when they were "young & dumb"
we all...or most of us...made mistakes when we were young
i dont really fault them...they didnt know what else to do
but after maturing, with better understanding and wisdom
they may realize their position has since changed
but then they have to deal with....
"OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE?"
"I killed my own child?"
instead of dealing with their guilt head-on
they get angry...really at themselves...when they know what they did
but they project that anger at the pro-life movement to shield
themselves from their own gigantic failure, guilt, and short-sightedness
as long as society says abortion is "ok" or "legal" then that can help shield
them from dealing with their own inner guilt.....
they rationalize..."well I guess I'm ok if society says so"
but many of them lay awake at night....in pain...thinking about that baby.
it's a tragedy of unspeakable proportions and I feel for both parties involved.
it's not the way it is supposed to be.....this is the way it is supposed to be

« Last Edit: May 17, 2010, 01:24:05 PM by ChristiansUnited4LessGvt »
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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2010, 02:20:53 PM »
Very young is not the same thing as unborn.

Why not?
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An unborn fetus is invisible. A born child is visible.

I thought everyone knew this.
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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2010, 02:35:17 PM »
An unborn fetus is invisible. A born child is visible.

I thought everyone knew this.

So, as soon as you leave the room, the born child is no longer visible, and therefore is no longer alive?
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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2010, 03:18:45 PM »
An unborn fetus is invisible.

looks pretty visible to me!





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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2010, 03:19:54 PM »
Still waiting for Xo to rationally and maturely explain how someone can be arrested, tried, and convicted for a double homicide, upon a pregnant woman, where the child in question is apparently "invisible"
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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2010, 04:07:37 PM »
hmm

if you look at it objectively, due to economic conditions the demand for abortions likely will go up.
pro-lifers are gonna have to answer how to deal with extra -cost of having a child.
unless the low moral is also damping peoples sex drives also.

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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2010, 04:51:13 PM »
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pro-lifers are gonna have to answer how to deal with extra -cost of having a child.

Why?

Getting pregnant is not like contracting cancer.


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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2010, 05:37:26 PM »
it`s thier job get prevent everybody from having pre-marital sex or at the very least stop all forms of abortions.

so dealing with a cost of having a child will be one of issues for the pro-ilfe organization.


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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2010, 06:20:32 PM »
Still waiting for Xo to rationally and maturely explain how someone can be arrested, tried, and convicted for a double homicide, upon a pregnant woman, where the child in question is apparently "invisible"
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That would be because an assortment of morons in some state legislature passed a stupid-assed law that this could be done, and some other imbeciles in some court affirmed it.

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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2010, 06:28:45 PM »
EVERY state legislature is an "assortment of morons" & EVERY court that has tried such a case has a Judge that's an "imbecile?  No majority of non-imbeciles present anywhere in any state legislature, including the most liberal of the liberal, like that in CA or Mass, to repeal such a moronic law, right?

That's your "rational" answer??

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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2010, 08:50:17 PM »
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it`s thier job get prevent everybody from having pre-marital sex or at the very least stop all forms of abortions.

No it's not. Their position is that abortion should not be considered a form of birth control.

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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2010, 09:04:49 PM »
with some exception pro-life organization is anti-birthcontrol .

I said no pre-marital sex for a reason

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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2010, 09:34:42 PM »
with some exception pro-life organization is anti-birthcontrol .

I said no pre-marital sex for a reason

I would bet that the majority of the pro-life crowd is ambivalent about birth control.

Sure the churches and leaders preach abstinence but the rank and file is usually ok with Birth control, condoms and other methods of not getting pregnant.


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Re: Unintended consequence
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2010, 12:16:40 AM »
As a staunch anti-abortionist.....precisely
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