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They hate us for our freedom
« on: May 25, 2010, 11:10:53 PM »
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Reciprocally ,we hate them for their disipline.

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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2010, 11:16:17 PM »
<<Reciprocally ,we hate them for their disipline.>>

What about Christian fundamentalists, do you hate them for their discipline too?


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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2010, 11:37:18 PM »
<<Reciprocally ,we hate them for their disipline.>>

What about Christian fundamentalists, do you hate them for their discipline too?




I am one of those , I am more prone to envy than simple hate, for better disapline.

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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2010, 11:55:28 PM »
There's gotta be a happy medium.  I am not in favour of fucking in the streets, but I'm not a fan of "discipline" either, if it's just another name for abstinence.  Sex ed is a start but it has to go way past the mechanics of the sex act or acts and focus on key issues of self-respect and empathy.  And, no, I don't think that can be left to the parents.  They obviously don't all do such a great job.

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2010, 01:40:27 AM »
The name Abdullah translates "Slave of Allah".
An interesting name for the king of Saudi Arabia.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2010, 05:31:58 AM »
There's gotta be a happy medium.  I am not in favour of fucking in the streets, but I'm not a fan of "discipline" either, if it's just another name for abstinence.  Sex ed is a start but it has to go way past the mechanics of the sex act or acts and focus on key issues of self-respect and empathy.  And, no, I don't think that can be left to the parents.  They obviously don't all do such a great job.


The more the government gets itself involved the more....


......Those parents who were effective are hobbled.

OR

..... The inneffective parents are corrected.


Which of these do we see from recent history?

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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2010, 10:52:33 AM »
abstinence=disapline

after all this time this is the best we can do to not get disttracted by our sex drives.
sad

must not be very effective since prostutions sting tends to comeup with a name for the news


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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2010, 03:47:50 PM »
Mark Twain pointed out that it is a lot easier for old folks to be abstinent than the young, and yet it was the old farts who wrote the rules.
The young were too busy getting busy to take part in the writing of the Commandment against lust, we can assume, and those who were not were too busy fantasizing about when it would finally be their turn to get some nookie.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2010, 04:09:19 PM »
<<The more the government gets itself involved the more....


<<......Those parents who were effective are hobbled.

<<OR

<<..... The inneffective parents are corrected.


<<Which of these do we see from recent history?>>

None of the above.  What you see is the government hobbled by the "ineffective" parents so that it can't do a good job of teaching the kids about responsible sex and a bunch of fundamentalist nut-cases pushing "abstinence" and "secondary virginity" BS having the opposite effect of what is intended.  What is needed is a total divorce between Christianity and sex ed, for the simple reason that the Christians base their whole fucking religion around men who never touched women, and/or women who don't have sex with men, which is bound to have a sick and unhealthy effect on their whole concept of male-female dynamics, disqualifying them automatically from a realistic appraisal of acceptable sexual outlets.

Sex-ed should not only be made compulsory for all students, including the home-schooled, but it must be taught as a medical or mental-health issue with humanistic ethical input rather than as some kind of sectarian weirdness advancing the particularly bizarre Christian ideas on sexuality.

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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2010, 11:11:39 PM »
<<The more the government gets itself involved the more....


<<......Those parents who were effective are hobbled.

<<OR

<<..... The inneffective parents are corrected.


<<Which of these do we see from recent history?>>

None of the above.  What you see is the government hobbled by the "ineffective" parents so that it can't do a good job of teaching the kids about responsible sex and a bunch of fundamentalist nut-cases pushing "abstinence" and "secondary virginity" BS having the opposite effect of what is intended.  What is needed is a total divorce between Christianity and sex ed, for the simple reason that the Christians base their whole fucking religion around men who never touched women, and/or women who don't have sex with men, which is bound to have a sick and unhealthy effect on their whole concept of male-female dynamics, disqualifying them automatically from a realistic appraisal of acceptable sexual outlets.

Sex-ed should not only be made compulsory for all students, including the home-schooled, but it must be taught as a medical or mental-health issue with humanistic ethical input rather than as some kind of sectarian weirdness advancing the particularly bizarre Christian ideas on sexuality.


As the government becomes gradually more and more involved , we less and less problem?

Say it with a straight face.