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Michael Tee

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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2010, 05:04:45 PM »
<<I do not see armed struggle as being effective unless, of course, far more countries attack Israel than just Palestinians. >>

This is more or less my view.  Alone, the Palestinians are fucked.  All they can expect from the rest of the world is words.  Denunciations, expressions of shock and outrage, recalling of ambassadors and then . . .  nothing.  Everybody gets back to business as usual.  The Palestinians?  FUCK the Palestinians.  And this is not only the reaction of the U.S. and Israel, but the reaction of the entire Arab world as well.

<<This was tried, and the Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians and Jordanians were routed.>>

Add the Iraqis to that list, they also sent a small contingent to join the effort in 1948 and again in 1967.  As did the Saudis and other North African Arab countries.  The short answer is, that was then, this is now.  In 1948, the only effective fighting force in the whole mix was Jordan's Arab Legion, a modern, British-trained, British-officered Bedouin force under the command of the legendary Glubb Pasha (John Glubb,) The Egyptian army today would turn in a much better performance than it did in 1948, 1956 or even 1967.  A pan-Arab army would do a lot better today than it ever has in the past, but the problem of course is the control of many Arab countries by U.S. puppet cliques ruling with an iron fist and backed by U.S. dollars, and, when necessary, U.S. torrpl.
There is not going to be any mass conversions of Sunnis to Shiites. That would be like New York Jews becoming Falashas.

<<Eventually, the Palestinians will outnumber the Jews in Israel proper, and will be able to vote themselves into power, or more likely, to make a coalition with Israeli peaceniks ad shut the Likud and fanatical religious parties out.>>

Yes, the "Revenge of the Cradle."  I don't think the Israelis will ever let that happen.  They have already planned to settle Orthodox Jewish families whose fertility rates are equal to or higher than the Arabs' in northern settlement areas where the Palestinians are actually predicted to outnumber the Jews by natural increase in a few years.  I believe that through a policy of deportations, forced evictions and, if necessary, mass murder, the Israelis are determined not to let this happen.

<<A boycott of Israel in the EU is possible, but not terribly likely: it would have to be at the consumer level. >>

That's exactly what is happening in Europe as we speak.  As I say, the boycott has only a foothold now, and only in some countries.  But as Israeli crimes and atrocities multiply, count on the boycott to spread.  It's already gotten quite a boost from the aid-ship massacre.

<<For the very first time, the Hengst Diesel filter for my car claims to be "Made in Israel" other than in Germany or the Czech Republic. It is identical in every way to the Hengst filter I removed.

<<Perhaps I will simply wash them out with degreaser and not buy any more. This is a clear plastic thing and washing takes about a week of shaking and refilling and another two weeks to dry. It saves me all of $2.50.>>

To be effective, the distributor has to be officially advised that a product is being boycotted and WHY it is being boycotted.  Preferably on the letterhead of an organized boycott group.  Preferably with a list of thousands of signatures of real boycotters.  While a spontaneous boycott by one individual is commendable, it's not likely to be very effective.

<<I was thinking of a passive resistance tactic. As I said, what would Gandhi-Ji do? >>

Whatever he'd do, the ZioNazi-controlled MSM would find a clear way to block or counter it.  Their control of US MSM is legendary - -  you can be sure the whole Ghandian effort would be relegated to the back pages or to a 15-second clip, drowned in the "reaction" to the action by dozens of Israeli spokesmen or professional ZioNazi apologists, and would vanish from the 24-hour news cycle in about 2 days, never to reappear.

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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2010, 06:54:16 PM »


Israel reports discovery of arms cache on board Gaza aid ship    

By Jon Rosamond and Yaakov Katz

02 June 2010

Israeli security forces have reported finding a weapons cache on board the Turkish-flagged merchant vessel in which around 10 pro-Palestinian civilian activists were killed during a boarding operation by Israel Navy (IN) commandos.

The deaths occurred during close-quarter fighting between individuals travelling in the Mavi Marmara one of six vessels in a convoy that attempted to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza on 31 May and members of the Flotilla 13 (Shayetet) naval special forces unit.

Later that day the ship was brought into the Israeli port of Ashdod, where searchers found "a supply of weapons including knives, Molotov cocktails, detonators, wood and metal clubs, slingshots and rocks, large hammers and sharp metal objects", according to the Israel Defence Force (IDF). "In addition gas masks were found, pointing to the prior intention of the ship's passengers to use violence against IDF soldiers who would then be forced to use riot dispersal methods."

Mavi Marmara was the largest vessel in the convoy that left Cyprus on 30 May carrying 10,000 tons of humanitarian supplies to the Gaza Strip, which has been under Israeli blockade since the Islamist Hamas movement seized power in the 25 mile-long territory in 2007.

http://www.janes.com/news/defence/jni/jni100602_1_n.shtml
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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2010, 07:03:38 PM »
KNIVES!   Were they Turkish scimitars?
Slingshots! Them Philistines learned about them from David.
Rocks! Clubs! Gas masks!

Oh, please!
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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2010, 07:38:27 PM »
Yes, please .... pay attention to the facts, including that Israel did not "attack some innocent floatilla",, validated by the fact that the 1st group of flotillas were let thru without incident, that Israeli troops initially were brandishing paintball guns, so as NOT to cause any supposed "massacre" of civilians, that they were the ones initially attacked, including firearms taken from the 1st Israeli soldiers to step on deck of the last flotilla, and subsequently required more lethal force to defend themselves
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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2010, 07:52:15 PM »
The Israelis were assholes. Knives hardly amount to an arms cache. Gasmasks are defensive, and not weapons at all.
The damned Zionists look like shit and fell in it, to Hell with them and the horse they rode in on. Now watch and see what comes across that Egyptian checkpoint. This was a job for diplomacy and the fools sent commandos.

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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2010, 07:56:01 PM »
This was a job for restraint, and the Jihadists showed none.  Nor would I have expected them to.  It's exactly what they wanted.  Again, NOTHING would have occured, if they didn't start attacking Israeli soldiers, but that wasn't the purpose of the Jihadists on board.
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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2010, 09:06:53 PM »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2010, 09:30:42 PM »
Thats a good one SIRS!  :D
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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2010, 10:41:34 PM »
An Israeli commando playing the role of a piñata. Cool!
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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2010, 11:07:43 PM »
Could someone tell me ,....


...what sort of humanitarian aid is four hundred Turkish persons?

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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2010, 11:10:20 PM »
An Israeli commando playing the role of a piñata. Cool!

Xo's starting to get it
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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2010, 12:37:38 AM »
<<What would I do if my enemy was winning,
. . . ? Personally I would be at
my enemy's office tomorrow morning . . .  I will lay down
my arms, . . . and I will do anything
asked to promote a sincere friendship, . . .  and I will be ok
with Israel living in peace and making the final decisions
as long as I can maintain my dignity and we both work
honestly to end my people's suffering moving forward.>>

That's really nice.  And your enemy would say, fine, give me all your weapons and let's shake hands.

And tomorrow your enemy would say, uh, would you mind evacuating your home because that Jewish settlement is expanding and needs the land.  You could move in with your brother's family, or maybe you'd like to go to the refugee camp near Ramallah.

Or maybe they would tell you, here's a map of the new road connecting the two new Jewish settlements, but it's for Jews only, so you won't be able to use it or cross it.  And when you tell them, but it cuts me off from my olive trees, how am I supposed to get there to look after them and harvest them, they will tell you, Gee, I don't know, it will be hard for you, my brother, but you will have to find a way.

This is a fight for land, CU4.  It won't stop when the fighting stops.  It will stop when the Jews have all the land or the Arabs have all the land.  The Palestinians are mostly Muslims.  They aren't afraid to die.  They'll get their land back or they'll die in the attempt.  Either way, they'll keep their honour.  Going to the enemy and telling him You win, they'll lose their land AND their honour.  It's a no-brainer.

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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2010, 12:56:42 AM »
The so-called Jewish "land grab" stopped in 1967.  There has been no "expansion" since, so the so-called notion that the Jews are after all the Middle East land is, dare I say it,......?
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Re: Terrorist Cell Exposed on "Aid-For-Gaza" Trojan Horse Ship!
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2010, 01:12:17 AM »
I wish we had a leader like this!

*UPDATE 2/3* Netanyahu Speaks about Israeli Flotilla Raid (6.2.10)

"This wasn't a love boat, this was a hate boat...
These weren't pacifists, these were violent supporters of terrorism,"

Benjamin Netanyahu




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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2010, 01:20:41 AM »
We did....not that long ago
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle