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Re: Ooops
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2006, 11:16:56 PM »
Jeb has done a fine job with the handling of hurricane emergencies.

Regarding the cost of homeowners insurance... you are right... it ain't pretty
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Jeb has done a fine job staying in front of the camera.  The truth is, people in Florida have less security than Jeb admits to.  I75 goes north and south, the turnpike, and 95.  When and if there is an evacuation, one leaves quick and finds themselves now completely locked in unmoving traffic grid.  Most sane Floridians I know would never evacuate, knowing they could afford better protection for themselves and their familes than being stuck on a raised road of stalled traffic, a sitting duck, and on
the two big exits, 75 and 95, just inland, at crosswind to the gale force.  

Some will outrun the storm, but only a small percentage; the rest would congeal in mass, stupid suicide, on any hurricane above a 3.

While not mentioning any of that, Jeb does indeed mention flashlight batteries, duct tape, battery radio, plywood, food and water for three (!) days, and don't forget the pets.

Those most especially appreciative of Jeb are your aforementioned insurance companies and all those real  estate people and developers.  

In some ways, developers--who pay little to no taxes now--are moving into communities performing grand theft.

In Pasco County, not a week ago, local news covererd the plight of a man who owns a small marina
on the Gulf Coast.  His county commissioners assessed his taxes with a new increase this year to the tune of $47,000 extra dollars.  Their rationale?

A spokesman for the County Commission told local news that the assessment was one of potential;  they calculated the taxes on what the property WOULD be if there were a large, modern condomium there instead of the small marina.  

He could sue, but there you are, owning a business one day, told to produce $47,000 in tax increase the next, based on an invisible but flush developer's rah rah predictions.  And when they hit you with that meant-to-be-impossible demand, you can go out and spend what you may have left to hire an attorney, who may be a good ole boy too.  In fact, you might bet on that, should the paucity of lawsuits against these reapers be a clue.

In all of Florida, there is a strange disconnect with people and their county commissions; while in earlier years, one would expect that a country commissioner would work to protect the residents (and therefore constituents), here we find them suddenly acting with imperial imperviousness, bold in their downshits and, locally anyhow, mighty shy of tv camera.  Instead of storming the commission meetings, a large number are sheltered in their mega-churches, carrying on like they-shoot horses don't they, convinced that the Bushes are going to take care of them in the Christian long run.

In Florida, after tourism, your prevailing industries are big sports and casinos, the lion's share of the profit goes to out-of-state pockets, or if you prefer, corporate pockets.  Any saavy business guru will tell you that Florida is the worst state to attempt to start a small business.   It is a corporate state.

Insurance claims in large numbers from the last four hurricanes are ignored by the lofty Jeb, while persistent rumors of Cubans in the Miami being paid promptly and superflously as way of political payback continue.

And the spin is?   It is you saying Jeb is doing a heck of a brownie job, while he meantimes does a list of photo-ops: empty blond newscasters paint him Tom Edison in Stormville.

The real story of the hurricanes is the taxes, the lack of taxes, the Klondike gold in property turnover,
and the unprecidented insurance bonanzas, which are simillar to Halliburton in Iraq.

Jeb, by the way, is the real NEOCON in the family, while his putty brother mimes tough for the oil companies, but without a clue.  Jeb, I will grant you, has a clue.











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Re: Ooops
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2006, 12:56:16 AM »
Also, next year, when/if we have the mother of all Hurricane Seasons and Bush loses ANOTHER US CITY, I want all of you to be posting something along the lines of...

"Well, since I said that a light hurricane season is indicative of NO global warming, I guess this horrible hurricane season in which we lost the whole southern tip of Florida means that global warming is real.  I should have paid attention."

you have to be more specific .....If you are speaking of the land of the chocolate mayor.... Bush didn't lose that city, nor did the hurricane 'Katrina', it was the damn fools that just stayed in that bowl with their fingers crossed.  That event was predicted decades ago.  Let's put the blame where it belongs.  Now you could say that it is Bush's fault (looking at the liberal thinking big government is gonna bail my ass out yet agin).  Since it is the Federal governments job to run the Federal government so that federal policies and services are unilateral over all states, you may want to blame it on the Governor of Louisiana for not doing her job and making sure the State has its proverbial ducks in a row.  You can follow that up with Nagin who clearly just kept on skimming with one hand behind his back, fingers crossed.   BUT when all is said and done, for New Orleans, anyway...it is the fault of the people because they encourage the likes  of Nagin by re-electing him.

I didn't notice me being any closer to the Keys this year so what southern tip are you talking about.  Jeb has done a fine job with the handling of hurricane emergencies.

Regarding the cost of homeowners insurance... you are right... it ain't pretty

Good lord.  You run down any involvement in government saving Americans in New Orleans and then praise Jeb for handling hurricane emergencies well.  Guess we know where you stand.

Plus you go with "Blame the victim."  Good one.  The stupid ole poor folk, just too damn stupid to start hoofing it northward.  Hell, they had three days warning!  Get on the road.  Drag grandma out of her bed.  Get on the highway and run!

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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2006, 12:59:18 AM »
Sirs officially outed as a DRUDGE reader.

A) What the hell is a "Drudge reader"?  someone that looks at links collected at a particular sight that has stories and news reports from all over the globe??

B)  Gore and the Global Warming nuts were falling all over themselves claiming how last year's Hurricane season was just the tip of the iceberg as it relates to how destructive Global warming was becoming, and just wait for the next season.  Here it is, here it was, and there it went.

C)  Does it mean Global Warming doesn't exist? no.  Does it mean we won't have a bad Hurricane season next year? no.  Does it mean if we do have a bad Hurricane season next year it's proof positive of man-induced Global Warming?  Hell no

A)  Look in the mirror.

B)  *yawn*

C)  It does exist and it is real and we are the cause.  EVERY valid study has shown this.  Every study conducted by someone with a vested financial interest "casts doubt".  How stupid are you anyway?

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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2006, 01:09:58 AM »
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C)  It does exist and it is real and we are the cause.  EVERY valid study has shown this.  Every study conducted by someone with a vested financial interest "casts doubt".  How stupid are you anyway?

What are you doing about it?
Replaced all your lightbulbs with flourescents?
Walk to work?
Ride a bicycle? 
Check the  insulatation in your house?
Set the thermostat to 60?

It adds up.




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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2006, 01:30:58 AM »
It does exist and it is real and we are the cause.  EVERY valid study has shown this.  Every study conducted by someone with a vested financial interest "casts doubt".  How stupid are you anyway?

Good gravy, Brass is in full meltdown mode.  You have a bad day at the office, bug guy?  I can almost hear the jumping up and down, and the screaming at the computer "it does exist... it does exist....Elvis is ali...I mean Global Warming does exist and you capitalist nazi scum are the cause"
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2006, 01:35:26 AM »
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C)  It does exist and it is real and we are the cause.  EVERY valid study has shown this.  Every study conducted by someone with a vested financial interest "casts doubt".  How stupid are you anyway?

What are you doing about it?
Replaced all your lightbulbs with flourescents?
Walk to work?
Ride a bicycle? 
Check the  insulatation in your house?
Set the thermostat to 60?

It adds up.


Indeed it does.  What have you done?  Any of those things?

I just yesterday called a guy to come over and at least tell me how much to redo the insulation. I have zero money to put to that right now but I will.

We have gone around and filled in all the cracks we can to help insulate.  I rarely run the heat and try not to run the ac in the summer but since global warming is in full effect, I can't bear it most times.

Michelle has sworn to get those flourescent bulbs but money is tight right now.  You know?

We are thinking about trading both the cars in on a hybrid.  But that will be after the first of the year.  We're doing what we can but this is a capitalist society that doesn't care if the world is going to hell in a handbasket just that the check clears.

So, in the end the answer to most of those is No.  But we're working on it.

But at least, I have the balls to admit it.

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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2006, 01:56:57 AM »
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Indeed it does.  What have you done?  Any of those things?

I have replaced all the bulbs, a couple of years ago.

I keep the thermostat at 52. I close off unused rooms.

I walk 10 feet to work as i telecommute or work at home. I have driven less than 3000 miles since january. The average is > 1000 a month. You do the math.

On really cold days i heat with the wood stove. I usually get the firewood for free. I cook in bulk and portion the leftovers for later meals. I dress in layers. I rarely watch tv. I got rid of cable 3 years ago. I replace my refrigerator 6 months ago with one with a much better energy rating. My utility bills have been cut in half since 3 years ago. I took the leaf blower to my dryer vents and cut drying time in half.

And i'm not doing this because of global warming. I'm doing it because i have better places to put my money than in a utilities coffers.

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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2006, 01:57:34 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2006, 01:58:34 AM »
I applaud your noble efforts to save the planet by saving your own money.

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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2006, 02:00:18 AM »
The trend to build larger houses might be halted or reversed by energy cost.

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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2006, 02:15:11 AM »
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I applaud your noble efforts to save the planet by saving your own money.

Thank you. Just so you know, i can name three people who did the same thing with their dryers after they saw or heard of what i did to mine. They have the same savings. It adds up. One person at a time. That is how you affect change. You don't preach and scream and come off holier than thou. No one pays attention to that.

You just persuade by quiet example. Try it.

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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2006, 02:17:29 AM »
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I applaud your noble efforts to save the planet by saving your own money.

Thank you. Just so you know, i can name three people who did the same thing with their dryers after they saw or heard of what i did to mine. They have the same savings. It adds up. One person at a time. That is how you affect change. You don't preach and scream and come off holier than thou. No one pays attention to that.

You just persuade by quiet example. Try it.


You know I might try that leaf blower thing on my dryer , though I just bought a brush designed to root out the duct , the blower sounds easyer.

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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2006, 02:39:05 AM »
I had to replace the belt on it and was amazed at how much lint collects all throughout it. I have a short run to the outside so i replaced the flex exhaust with a smooth pvc pipe. Works great.

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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2006, 07:18:39 AM »
It does exist and it is real and we are the cause.  EVERY valid study has shown this.

No study has shown that humans are the sole cause of global warming. Please provide at least one that does so.
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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2006, 10:39:37 AM »
No study has shown that humans are the sole cause of global warming. Please provide at least one that does so.
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So what?

Humans are a significant cause of global warming. If humans act to diminish their contributions to global warming, then it will be less intense.

Other causes should be studied, and everything that can be done to decrease this should be done.

Doing nothing because one is not the only cause of the problem is just stupid.
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