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Plane

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Re: Building Socialism from Below: The Role of the Communes in Venezuela
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2010, 12:13:52 AM »
<<Do you suppose that there was one more CIA spy than KGB spy?>>

I wouldn't know.  Wouldn't make any difference.  It's effectiveness, not weight of numbers, that counts here.


What reason is there to think the KGB ineffective?

There isn't any point in blameing the input of foreigners , unless you want to also blame the collapse of the US on the efforts of spys too.

If these efforts are equivelent they cancell ,and understanding the situation over all is advanced more by dismissing the effect than by consentrating on it.

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Re: Building Socialism from Below: The Role of the Communes in Venezuela
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2010, 01:30:14 AM »
<<What reason is there to think the KGB ineffective?>>

What reason to think they're effective against the CIA?  Didn't you read my earlier posts in this thread?  I DON'T KNOW why the U.S.S.R. fell apart.  I want to read up on it and find out what I can about it.  I certainly don't buy the "official" explanation that the MSM and you are so intent on selling.  But if it's true, it's true.  That's what I want to find out.

<<There isn't any point in blameing the input of foreigners , unless you want to also blame the collapse of the US on the efforts of spys too.>>

Each case is different.  If Vladimir Putin dies from liver cancer, it doesn't mean that Barack Obama has to die of liver cancer too.

<<If these efforts are equivelent they cancell  . . . >>

Yeah, and if they're not equivalent, they don't cancel.

<< . . . and understanding the situation over all is advanced more by dismissing the effect than by consentrating on it.>>

Well, ya lost me there, plane.