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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: kimba1 on November 16, 2015, 01:22:38 PM

Title: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: kimba1 on November 16, 2015, 01:22:38 PM
Recently somebody photoshopped a picture of a canadian sihk as the bomber in paris and he's now fearing for his life.

I notice alot of people dont really care if indians are not muslims and still think thier terrorist connected. Meaning we have the make ngs of creating more enemies
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: kimba1 on November 16, 2015, 01:33:02 PM
Im not even sure muslim even wear turbins now
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 16, 2015, 02:08:43 PM
Muslims are not required to wear turbans, Sikhs are, because the men ever cut their hair, and the turban is part of the way to keep 15 ft of hair under control.  Turbans are considered antiquated by most Sunni Muslims They were popular in Ottoman times, and the Ottomans are no longer running anything.
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: Plane on November 16, 2015, 07:52:58 PM
  Yes, this is a dangerous little bit of ignorance.

   I remember that a Sihk man was killed by an infuriated idiot shortly after 9-11-01.

    Though really , there are also more Muslims that do not deserve this ire than there are that do.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-republicans-want-obama-to-denounce-radical-islam-%e2%80%94-and-why-he-wont-do-it/ar-BBn4ImK?li=AAa0dzB

     In this one issue I agree more with President Obama than with Candidate Carson.
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 17, 2015, 10:46:38 AM
The problem with the words "radical Islam" is than no possible translation of these words sounds to Arabic speakers as a truly bad thing.

Something like the term "observant Jews" is used to describe fanatics who break the windshields of cars they see being driven on the Sabbath.

This is a propaganda war and therefore it must be fought in several languages. The State Department has translators who understand how the President's statements will be translated, and therefore he avoids using phrases that will be translated in such a way as it sounds like he hates Mohammad's words.

 
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on November 18, 2015, 10:57:13 AM
(http://s30.postimg.org/5g1a7gujl/12274593_984729784921071_6856090620048880538_n_j.jpg)
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 18, 2015, 01:09:11 PM
Only 3% of Americans are actually capitalists, by which they live exclusively on the returns from their investments.

But that is not the point: My point is that President Obama does not use the term "Islamic Extremists" because it cannot be translated as a pejorative description into Arabic. The term jhadist is perfectly adequate and understood.
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: Plane on November 18, 2015, 07:34:36 PM
Only 3% of Americans are actually capitalists, by which they live exclusively on the returns from their investments.

But that is not the point: My point is that President Obama does not use the term "Islamic Extremists" because it cannot be translated as a pejorative description into Arabic. The term jhadist is perfectly adequate and understood.

That is an influential 3%.

Kinda makes your opponents point.

GWB and BHO seem to both agree with you about addressing Islamic enemies in terms that do not insult Muslim friends.

Does this mean we can't talk of them ?

In Saudi Arabia they call them Daesh, but I don't know the translation.

I bet it doesn't mean" Pious".


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/word-isis-doesn-article-1.2438861
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: kimba1 on November 18, 2015, 09:07:02 PM
But towards the end the german army was getting very annoyed with nazi's . Lets just say the forth reich may not of lasted anyway.


We're only witnessing the beginning of these things. We don't know the breaking point
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 19, 2015, 10:17:00 AM
The Wehrmacht was quite happy with Herr Adolph as long as he was winning and conquering. When they started losing, that was when they became disenchanted, and even tried to kill Hitler.

DAESH is an acronym of the Arabic letters for the words meaning "Islamic Caliphate of Iraq and the Levant", but it is also a play on words that are used as a put down of the group, according to what I heard on NPR.

Arabic has a lot of literary traditions and word tricks that are entirely untranslatable to English. Much of it is related to poetry.
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on November 19, 2015, 03:11:09 PM
(http://s24.postimg.org/bho3lhu11/Say_It_NRD_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Huh? Sihk is not muslim
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 19, 2015, 03:20:10 PM
Some cartoonist's imaginary Sam Kinison is clearly a political expert. The type that suits your intellect