DebateGate

General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on October 26, 2016, 01:19:58 PM

Title: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on October 26, 2016, 01:19:58 PM
97 Percent of DOJ Employee Political Donations Went to Hillary Clinton

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/302817-government-workers-shun-trump-give-big-money-to-clinton-campaign
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on October 26, 2016, 11:03:29 PM
Did you also catch the warning the Justice Dept has communicated?...anyone found trying to establish/prove voter fraud during the election, can be arrested.  This of course is the same Justice Dept that had no problem with Black Panthers standing outside of voting/polling stations
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Plane on October 26, 2016, 11:54:12 PM
  Is this counting the giving of the AFGE?

   My union gives to Democrats , without asking me ever.
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 01, 2016, 03:14:42 PM
...and now we have one of Podesta's closest friends at the Justice Dept, put in charge of examining these newly found e-mails??  Does the corruption get any more transparent??    >:(
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 01, 2016, 03:44:26 PM
Most e mail is just garbage. There is not a single e mail of importance that could have damaged this country. The whose e mail "scandal" is just meaningless nonsense.
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 01, 2016, 03:52:13 PM
As much as Clinton and her coolaide contingent would hav eus believe, its not "e-mail", as if she's being investigated by the FBI for emialing someone about her Yoga routine.  It's been 1st and formost her illegal server to begin with.  Add to that the classified e-mails that should have never been on it.  Add to that her lying about sending and receving classified e-mails on her unlawwful unsecured private server.  Add to that the attempt to destroy the e-mails in the face of a congressional subpoena and bleach bit the server for good measure, all demonstrating an overt INTENT to deceve & obstruct, 1st Congress, then the FBI. 

You have no fricken clue what e-mails have likely compromised our national security, so the ongoing claims that this is no big thing, fall only on ignorant ears
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Plane on November 02, 2016, 05:50:55 AM
.... There is not a single e mail of importance that could have damaged this country. ,,,,,,
This can be true .


Only ,if, the entire time that Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State she never had a matter of importance to talk about.

So, this could be true.

Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 02, 2016, 10:26:19 AM
So far there has not been EVEN ONE revealed secret that can be proven to have harmed this country in even the most minor of ways.

Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 02, 2016, 10:38:11 AM
Putting aside for the moment that Comey himself indicating that yes, her server was likely breached at some point, as well as a recent story that indicated at least 5 hacks into her private system, no foreign entity is going to broadcast "look what we found, look what we hacked".  They're simply going to use that information against us, especially if it included locations of covert assets
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 02, 2016, 01:36:47 PM
If they know what was released, and they know what happened as a result, then they would have evidence, yet they have none.

It is as stupid as Trump claiming that somehow a surprise attack on Mosul was such a great idea. It is not like the Normandy Invasion. Isis knows that Iraq will try to retake Mosul as soon as possible. It is not any more likely that a surprise attack would work than if Trump were to sneak into a city and build a Trump Tower overnight.

You have to be really, really REALLY stupid to believe anything this jerk says.

But never fear, sirs, you are dumb enough to swallow all his lies whole.
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 02, 2016, 01:59:47 PM
No, it doesn't work that way.  If I'm a terrorist who hacked a server that gives me the location of a secret covert operative, I simply take out the operative.  I'm not going to broadcast it, giveing the Government an insight as to what I know, and because the asset was secret to begin with, the Government isn't going to make known the compromise either

And you really have no leg to stand on supporting the queen of pathological lying
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on November 02, 2016, 03:37:12 PM
ah no way the "system is rigged"....how could Trump utter such a thing!.....lol

WikiLeaks: Department of Justice Peter Kadzik Leaked Email Investigation Intel to Hillary Clinton Campaign

And guess who at the DOJ is looking into the latest Hillary e-mails discovered on disgraced Dem Congressman Weiner's computer?

Kadzik is now helping lead the Justice Department's role with the renewed FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton's email server.
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 02, 2016, 03:56:41 PM
WOW     :o
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on November 02, 2016, 11:22:33 PM
WOW     :o

Look at this SIRS!

A Dept of Justice official on his personal e-mail passing tips to Podesta.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43150
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Plane on November 02, 2016, 11:31:42 PM
So far there has not been EVEN ONE revealed secret that can be proven to have harmed this country in even the most minor of ways.



If Hillary was never discussing anything important , how well was she Secretary of State?
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 03, 2016, 12:36:59 PM
So far there has not been EVEN ONE revealed secret that can be proven to have harmed this country in even the most minor of ways.

And there in lies the kicker, since we're not going to reveal anything that might be compromised, its up to the bad guys to do that.  And now we have established intel by the FBI, that her unsecured server was hacked AT LEAST FIVE times, by Foreign Intel Agencies.  Considering the thousands of e-mailings that were in the server, its safe to say that far more that "one" of our secrets is now in the hands of foreign agents.  I wonder how much ISIS purchased for even a few hundred of them
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on November 03, 2016, 03:24:36 PM
SIRS.....look at this!

Shocking how insanely corrupt/rigged our system is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1utcAxn82Uw
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 03, 2016, 03:35:26 PM
But ...but....Clinton's "the most qualified"..... (if the parameters are level of corruption, of course)
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 04, 2016, 02:37:20 PM
If Hillary was never discussing anything important , how well was she Secretary of State?
============================================

Your assumption here is that she did all her important business as Secretary of State by e mail.

Which, of course. is bogus.
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 04, 2016, 02:46:39 PM
And you're trying to claim she did NONE??
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on November 04, 2016, 05:04:52 PM
The same people that fund ISIS also fund Hillary Clinton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ7lYRnF1F8
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 04, 2016, 06:21:13 PM
E mail is not useful for such things, really, so I doubt it.
You have nary a shred of proof.
Trump is not simply occasionally negligent, he is a fucking THIEF and con man with the sort of personality that should never be in a government.
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 04, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
Your erroneous opinion of Trump not-with-standing, you can doubt all you want.  The fact that classified and top secret e-mailsings are sent all the time tends to debunk the nonsense of how unuseful e-mail supposedly is.  It also wouldn't explain why tens of thousands were actively deleted upon the Clinton camp getting word of a Congressional subpoena to save all of them, if they were no big deal.  That's all the proof anyone needs

Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Plane on November 04, 2016, 07:19:33 PM
If Hillary was never discussing anything important , how well was she Secretary of State?
============================================

Your assumption here is that she did all her important business as Secretary of State by e mail.

Which, of course. is bogus.


The e-mails amount to thousands. Must be hundreds of hours of composing and writing and reading.

Is there any evidence that she ever did anything important away from the e-mails?
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 04, 2016, 08:23:10 PM
Oh get fucking serious.  There is little reason to compete with sirs for the forum dimwit.
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 04, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
When unable to answer a serious question posed, deflect, deflect, deflect
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 04, 2016, 10:09:42 PM
There is no serious question. sirs hates all Democrats for no good reason.
Especially he hates Blacks and women.
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 05, 2016, 12:28:56 AM
Do you really relish highlighting your idiocy??  Perhaps an unconscious demonstration of transference.  Do you hate blacks & women that much??

Here's the serious question, one more time:

The e-mails amount to thousands. Must be hundreds of hours of composing and writing and reading.

Is there any evidence that she ever did anything important away from the e-mails
?

Care to answer vs deflect??  MOST people read something in order for the information to be better appreciated.  This is either by letter, text, or EMAIL.  The 1st takes too long for it to be the most efficient means for substantive communication of thought.  The 2nd generally doesn't allow enough time for anything substantive to be discussed.  The most effective means of communication, in this day & age, outside of a telephone conversation, is e-mail.  It's quick, can be sent immediately, yet be able to incorporate far more information than a text could ever perform.

In other words, its likely the MOST useful method of transmitting vital information, quickly, yet with detail.  And the physical text allows the recipient to spend as much time going over it, after receiving it.  This is all pretty much common sense, in this day and age.  However, you're free to answer PLANE'S QUESTION, as to what other method would she have used more of
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 05, 2016, 05:40:15 PM
Obviously, she did a LOT besides send e mails. That explains why she traveled, for example. If she could have done the entire job with e mails, then she would never have needed to travel.
Title: Re: Rigged? Media/Left has "how dare you say that"....but facts are facts!
Post by: sirs on November 05, 2016, 06:47:30 PM
No one claimed that her traveling on the tax payer's dime, to see people 1 on 1, isn't indeed helpful.  But it's also very inefficent, in the time it takes to travel, and the few people you actually are in contact with (depending of course, on how much they donated to her foundation).

Point being, which you have yet to refute, is that e-mail is likely the MOST USEFUL MEANS Clinton had at her disposal to communicate the most classified of information, to the most people, in the quickest manner.  So, you can try to minimize the importance of her e-mails getting exposed in multiple hacks of her server.....it doesn't negate the highly classified intel & information that was obtained in those hacks....thousands upon thousands