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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: R.R. on October 25, 2012, 11:51:41 PM
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I just found out about this and it is like a body blow. He gave expert analysis on HBO boxing and really was the go to guy for an explanation of any controversy or arcane rule and was always there for the big fights. He was a real class act and a helluva trainer.
http://www.freep.com/article/20121025/SPORTS18/121025065/?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CSPORTS18 (http://www.freep.com/article/20121025/SPORTS18/121025065/?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CSPORTS18)
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Awe I hate to hear that.
He was a boxing legend.
He had a positive impact on so many inner city youth.
He will be missed.
Rest In Peace.....
(http://www.inspiremichigan.com/images/hero.jpg)
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Boxing is a sport that tends to make many of those who practice it mentally challenged, then they get to die sooner.
Boxing training is good exercise if you eliminate getting hit from the routine. I find it impossible to watch.
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Boxing is a sport that tends to make many of those who practice it mentally challenged, then they get to die sooner.
Most people who ever step in a boxing ring to box suffer no medical injury.
You'd probably like to outlaw it.
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Let's see a list of championship boxers who have lived to be 65 or older without obvious mental damage.
Boxing makes you stupid. The more you get hit in the head, the stupider you get.
I would certainly outlaw it as an Olympic sport.
I fail to see how watching two guys trying to beat each other's brains out is entertaining for anyone.
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Here's a thought....don't watch it. ::) If others enjoy it (I'm not one of them, by the way), what's that to you?
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Let's see a list of championship boxers who have lived to be 65 or older without obvious mental damage.
Boxing makes you stupid. The more you get hit in the head, the stupider you get.
Lots of things have risks....skydiving, mountain climbing, racing cars, eating too much food,
eating too little food, eating unhealthy foods, drinking alcohol, smoking, driving a car, playing sports,
and a million other things....and last thing most people want is some know-it-all liberal control freak
tellling them what they can and can not do.....get some therapy for the mental disorder and leave
people alone.
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There is a difference between pro boxing and mountain climbing and other dangerous sports, and that is that has become an industry. People rarely box those that they do not know for their own amusement. The purpose of mountain climbing is to get to the top, the purpose of auto racing is to come in first. The purpose of boxing is to render the other guy senseless for money.
I am not against gambling, but I am against casinos because the games are all rigged. In boxing most of the money goes to the gamblers and the promoters.
I really doubt that it will be outlawed, but it is a singularly mean and nasty sport.
I have an absolute right to be against it.
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Boxing is a sport that tends to make many of those who practice it mentally challenged, then they get to die sooner.
Many? Can you back that up?
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Joe Louis and Mohammad Ali were seriously impaired. There have been many others.
Surely you cannot believe that a boxing career does not damage many of those that engage in it.
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What Medicine is learning about concussions in recent years makes them seem more and more undesireable.
Not just the big knockouts , but the accumulated damage of many smaller concussions.
Before science got involved, "palookas and punch drunks" , were words that show the common wisdom noticing this effect.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-collision-syndrome (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-collision-syndrome)
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Surely you cannot believe that a boxing career does not damage many of those that engage in it.
No, I do not believe that many boxers become mentally challenged. That's ridiculous.
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I really doubt that it will be outlawed, but it is a singularly mean and nasty sport.
I have an absolute right to be against it.
Who's argueing that you don't have such a right? :o
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There is a lot of money in boxing.
Does it need strict regulation?
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Boxing is lucrative because of people who bet on boxing matches. There is a lot of abuse of boxers by managers and others. I suppose some regulations are needed, but I have no idea what they might be in any precise terms.
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If regulation made boxing less dangerous , would it equally make it less exciteing and interesting?
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I suppose that it would depend on the regulation. If the boxers were required to wear head protection, I imagine that would ruin the spectacle for many boxing fans. If half the proceeds were required to be paid to the boxers, that would make no difference.
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Boxing is less bloody than the bare knuckle days of old, which thanks to the Marquis of Queensbury was less bloody than the murdorous fights that preceded.
If the fighters are so well padded and controlled that injury is impossible we might as well be watching them stroll through the park together. At that point the public intrest would return to the bloody underground fighting.
I hope it is possible through medical and technical advancement to make the sport safer in a constanty improving way, good results would be long healthy carreers and long healthy retiements for the fighters who often now suffer greatly.
Perhaps the answr will be an illusion of danger .
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People apparently enjoy watching boxers get injured and knocked out, just as NASCAR fans enjoy seeing horrible crashes. I agree that bare knuckle fights were worse, but there is probably no way to make a blood sport less bloody without reducing its appeal to those who enjoy watching it.
I find it impossible to watch. I find boxing movies, where I know no one is really hurt that much, to be boring. And I really cannot being myself to give a damn who wins, just as in pro sports.
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Does this make the whole question uninteresting to you?
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Discussing the issue is not uninteresting, but there are certainly more interesting topics.
I do not expect that boxing will be outlawed or changed much, and I hardly think that I could effect any change if I thought that this were the most important issue on the planet, which I do not. Like Pro football and NASCAR, boxing is voluntary.No one is forced to play. Any fool can see how many people are killed, turned into inarticulate zombies and die prematurely to be sports heroes. The NFL players association has wisely asked for changes to make football safer.I hope whatever they do prevents the hundreds of high school football injuries and deaths that happen every year.