"Who's on 1st?"

[BT]

As we can see, don't expect any examples of Bt's latest accusations aimed at sirs

That's because you have a severe lack of honesty.

[Christians4LessGvt]

1. Where did I say it was good?
You are getting as bad a sirs.

But there you go again BT
You are wrong again.
The interesting part is are you going to admit it?
I did not say you "said it was good"
I asked you "if it was a good thing?"
You owe SIRS another apology

[Christians4LessGvt]

You tend to see every issue discussed here as entirely right (your side) and totally wrong (anyone else's side).

This might be the funniest and most ironic thing XO has every stated.
"Pot Calling the Kettle Black" maximum alert!
XO you are the absolute worst on this entire message board about never giving the Republicans any credit.
I have repeatedly given credit to Obama for increasing drone attacks on IslamoNazis in Pakistan.
I gave Obama credit for allowing US Seals to blow the brains out of IslamoNazi Pirates.
I give Obama credit for not closing Gitmo.
I give Obama credit for signing an extension of the Patriot Act.
I give Obama credit for increasing troops in Afghanistan.
I gave Obama credit for choosing General David "BeTrayUs" Petraeus to run the Afghan War.
I gave Obama credit for keeping Bush Defense Sect Robert Gates.
I give Obama credit for expanding the size of both the Army and the Marine Corps.
I give Obama credit for giving the green light to resume military trials of terror suspects at Club Gitmo
I give Obama credit for increased secretive operations to disrupt terror in places such as Yemen & Somalia
I gave President Clinton credit for signing Welfare Reform.
I gave President Clinton Credit for signing the Defense of Marriage Act
I gave President Clinton for a great strategy of no ground troops in the Kosevo War.

Lets see the guy (X0) wrongly calling me out as "blind to the other side" match my kudos
for recent Democratic presidents with his list a specific kudos for recent Republican presidents!

[BT]

1. Where did I say it was good?
You are getting as bad a sirs.

But there you go again BT
You are wrong again.
The interesting part is are you going to admit it?
I did not say you "said it was good"
I asked you "if it was a good thing?"
You owe SIRS another apology

Why ask the question?

[BT]

1. Where did I say it was good?
You are getting as bad a sirs.

But there you go again BT
You are wrong again.
The interesting part is are you going to admit it?
I did not say you "said it was good"
I asked you "if it was a good thing?"
You owe SIRS another apology

Why refuse to show cause and effect between a caliphate and terror?
Why accuse me of defending the indefensible.

Who and what am i supposedly defending?

i don't owe sirs anything.
 

[sirs]

As we can see, don't expect any examples of Bt's latest accusations aimed at sirs

That's because you have a severe lack of honesty.

Notice also the lack of any examples to yet another false allegation. 

Don't worry C, I'm not expecting any (apology), from our chairman.  At this point, with the credibility meter so used up, far easier to just throw out the accusations, and pray no one asks for any back-up.  And if they do, just throw more accusations out

[Christians4LessGvt]

Why ask the question?

Because I want to know....is that not allowed?
You asked if al-Qaida are "good Muslims"
So I assume if you ask a question....you dont know the answer.
And if you have not arrived at the conclusion that al-Qaida is bad
then I want to know if you think al-Qaida flying planes into the WTC is bad?
To be honest I am shocked at some of the stuff you post these days.
Your attempts at giving cover by moral equivalence stretches the imagination.
And yes you are "giving cover" by pretending Islam does not have a MAJOR MAJOR problem within it.
BT is there any other religion currently that has the huge problem of everyday
major headline violence from people claiming their motivation is their religion?

[BT]

As we can see, don't expect any examples of Bt's latest accusations aimed at sirs

That's because you have a severe lack of honesty.

Notice also the lack of any examples to yet another false allegation. 

Don't worry C, I'm not expecting any (apology), from our chairman.  At this point, with the credibility meter so used up, far easier to just throw out the accusations, and pray no one asks for any back-up.  And if they do, just throw more accusations out

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/3dhs/the-truth-the-whole-truth-and/msg84991/?topicseen#msg84991

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/3dhs/az-congresswomen-shot-dead-betcha-a-lib-did-it!/msg116572/#msg116572

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/3dhs/todays-faster-communications-allow-enemy-to-exploit-loopholes/msg32096/?topicseen#msg32096

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/3dhs/more-of-the-new-%27civility%27-from-the-left-gt-death-threats-against-republicans/msg119979/?topicseen#msg119979

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/3dhs/we%27re-on-a-task-from-god/msg74729/?topicseen#msg74729

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/3dhs/interesting-spin/msg77368/?topicseen#msg77368


Referring to the center as a Mosque is as disingenuous as referring to someone's home as a latrine because it has a bathroom in it.

so...lemme see if I have this straight...you think of a Mosque as ...... a bathroom??  a toilet??

http://debategate.com/new3dhs/3dhs/rarely-has-there-been-a-charge-so-wreckless/msg116881/#msg116881

Quote from: BT on October 21, 2010, 10:31:44 PM

    Hasan was an American of Palestinian descent. Do you think he might have some legitimate grievances? Would they be equal to those grievances of the Jews? Do you understand his conflicting emotions?  Do you recognize that understanding does not equal condoning?


Do you recognize justification of evil is justification of evil.

[BT]

Because I want to know....is that not allowed?

Certainly

You asked if al-Qaida are "good Muslims"

Yes I did

So I assume if you ask a question....you dont know the answer.

Not always.

And if you have not arrived at the conclusion that al-Qaida is bad

Being bad and being a bad muslim are not nec3eessarily the same thing.

then I want to know if you think al-Qaida flying planes into the WTC is bad?

Anyone, including Al Queda,  flying airplanes into the WTC to instill terror would be bad.

To be honest I am shocked at some of the stuff you post these days.
Your attempts at giving cover by moral equivalence stretches the imagination.
And yes you are "giving cover" by pretending Islam does not have a MAJOR MAJOR problem within it.
BT is there any other religion currently that has the huge problem of everyday
major headline violence from people claiming their motivation is their religion?

Are you aware that countries with majority muslim inhabitants have the lowest per capita murder rates in the world?



Let's try again. What makes a good muslim?

[Plane]

Capitalism is inherently good, socialism is inherently evil.

Well yes , I would say this agrees with the facts as I know them.



As to whether Black people are only good if they agree with me , sure, but not just white ones and black ones any color of person who really wants to be good has to be in agreement with me to be so.

Who do you think is bad , that is in agreement with you?

[Plane]

Because I want to know....is that not allowed?

Certainly

You asked if al-Qaida are "good Muslims"

Yes I did

So I assume if you ask a question....you dont know the answer.

Not always.

...Let's try again. What makes a good muslim?

   If one were to ask Osama Bin Laden, he would certainly say that the best Muslims are the ones who agree with him, includeing his declaration of war on the USA, he as said as much in plain Arabic.
   He makes his case to Muslims , he staffs his organisation with Muslims being Muslim is a requirement of his terror organisation.

     Most of us think of Terroristic Muslims as a subset of all Muslims , Osama Bin Laden would not be quite that generous, he really calls it a duty to be a good Muslim to join in his Jahiad.

    President Bush spent a lot of effort defusing public anger at Islam in general, this probly saved a lot of innocent lives, I kinda wish that in Osama Bin Ladens world there was an equivelent of President Bush to hold forth the porpasition that not all westerners not all Christians , not all Americans share equally in the guilt that some of them might have comitted.

[sirs]

.......

Nice try.......cudos on the time you apparently had to spend on the effort though.  Especially those that had nothing to do with your comments

[BT]

.......

Nice try.......cudos on the time you apparently had to spend on the effort though.  Especially those that had nothing to do with your comments

Didn't take much time. did a search on the word inference.

[sirs]

Cool....which does nothing to validate your claims of this supposed rampant dishonesty on my part.  Especially in the context when better clarity is provided by that person, and subsequent improved inferring is done

But like I said, nice try.  Anything to take the spotlight off yas

[BT]

BSB: Referring to the center as a Mosque is as disingenuous as referring to someone's home as a latrine because it has a bathroom in it.

Sirs: so...lemme see if I have this straight...you think of a Mosque as ...... a bathroom??  a toilet??

What was striking about this exchange was:

The gross misrepresentation of what BSB meant
and that it was the second to last post of his in this forum.

The members of this forum, a jury of your peers if you will, can decide whether your misrepresentations rise to the level of dishonesty. Your denials notwithstanding.