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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on June 25, 2008, 07:59:18 PM

Title: "Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever"
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 25, 2008, 07:59:18 PM
Brazile: Forget Obama's Abortion Radicalism, Gas is $4!
By Mark Finkelstein | June 25, 2008 

Who cares if Barack Obama won't protect a child who is born alive after an abortion?  Gas is over $4/gallon! 

So argued Donna Brazile when Bill Bennett pressed her on the matter today.  The issue arose during a post-Obama press conference kibitzing session on CNN's Situation Room.  Bennett was making the point that the complaisant media failed to press the candidate on tough issues.

WOLF BLITZER: If you had been at that news conference, Bill, and you had a chance to ask one question, today, what would you have asked, if you were a reporter?

BILL BENNETT: I think when he brought up Chicago I would have said "why are you to the left of NARAL, Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein when it comes to abortion?  Are you really there?" Not that it's the only issue in the campaign, but I gotta question the guy's moral judgment, who doesn't see a problem with killing a baby after it's been born after eight months.

DONNA BRAZILE: But he's had an opportunity in several debates to talk about his position on abortion --

BENNETT: What is the answer to that question?

BRAZILE: Bill, look --

BENNETT: What is the answer?!

BRAZILE: You want to have a conversation about narrow issues --

BENNETT: That is not: that is fundamental!

BRAZILE: It is a fundamental issue, but the American people want to talk about gas prices --

BENNETT: Fine.

BRAZILE: They want to talk about the economy.

BENNETT: Fine.

BRAZILE: They want to talk about housing [inaudible] --

BENNETT: I want to talk about all of [inaudible]

BRAZILE: So if you want to go back to talking about same-sex marriages and abortions --

BENNETT: I didn't say anything about same-sex marriage.  I asked about that [Obama's abortion position].

BRAZILE: Again, Bill, Senator Obama, perhaps you missed all of the Democratic debates?I didn't?Senator Obama has talked about all these issues.

BENNETT: He hasn't answered the question.

Bennett was alluding to the fact, as CNSNews editor Terry Jeffrey has observed:

Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever.

He is so pro-abortion that he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions because he did not want to concede -- as he explained in a cold-blooded speech on the Illinois Senate floor -- that these babies, fully outside their mothers' wombs, with their hearts beating and lungs heaving, were in fact "persons."

The Illinois bill that Obama refused to support had language identical to the Born Alive Infants Protection Act that passed the U.S. Senate 98-0, with such senators as Barbara Boxer voting in favor.

But who cares about such stuff when gas is over four bucks a gallon?  Not Donna Brazile or the MSM, apparently.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/06/25/brazile-forget-obamas-abortion-radicalism-americans-care-about-gas (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/06/25/brazile-forget-obamas-abortion-radicalism-americans-care-about-gas)


Title: Re: "Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever"
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on June 25, 2008, 09:35:20 PM
He is not pro abortion.
He is pro choice.

He does not wish to give involuntary abortions to anyone.
He considers motherhood an option for the mother to choose.

Which is the right thing to do.
Freedom over your own body is NOT any sort of radical idea.
Title: Re: "Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever"
Post by: Amianthus on June 25, 2008, 10:23:26 PM
Freedom over your own body is NOT any sort of radical idea.

Except when that freedom involves the choice whether or not to take a vaccine; at that point, it's not your choice anymore.
Title: Re: "Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever"
Post by: Universe Prince on June 25, 2008, 11:05:58 PM
Freedom over your own body is NOT any sort of radical idea.

It is actually. This is why we have seatbelt laws, helmet laws, minimum age drinking laws, anti-drug laws, et cetera.
Title: Re: "Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever"
Post by: sirs on June 26, 2008, 11:56:12 AM
He is not pro abortion.  He is pro choice.

Ummm......no, since pretty much all the pro-lifers are also pro-choice of everything EXCEPT abortion.  So the issue is abortion, not choice.  The issue is it ok to kill an unborn child or not.  And if ok, under what circumstances.  ALL of which has to do with abortion, not "choice"
Title: Re: "Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever"
Post by: sirs on June 26, 2008, 12:04:55 PM
Freedom over your own body is NOT any sort of radical idea.

Except when that freedom involves the choice whether or not to take a vaccine; at that point, it's not your choice anymore.

It is actually. This is why we have seatbelt laws, helmet laws, minimum age drinking laws, anti-drug laws, et cetera.

Double whammy
Title: Re: "Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever"
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 26, 2008, 03:13:24 PM


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Title: Re: "Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever"
Post by: R.R. on June 27, 2008, 11:53:08 AM
Barack, when does life begin?

This ad will start running today in key battleground states...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCm8a5e47Kw[/youtube]
Title: Re: "Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever"
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 27, 2008, 12:26:02 PM
R. R.
Thanks for the wonderful video.

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