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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on November 02, 2015, 04:39:23 PM
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rift-emerges-among-gun-owners-over-concealing-weapons-in-schools/ar-BBmKdEU?li=AAa0dzB
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This guy is a nut.
He should leave his damned gun in his car.
There are no deer to hunt in school.
Odds ate 300,000 against any need to shoot anyone in that school at least.
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If anything you are being generous with those odds.
Sure , but why reduce his safety even so slightly?
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As I've opined before, unless you're law enforcement, I don't support open carry laws. It defeats both the purpose and success of concealed carry.
- Bad guys are going to break whatever gun laws the legislature passes. That's what makes them bad guys. They're going to carry their guns, regardless of what the xo's in the world rant about
- Bad guys don't want to get shot, so they're going to target areas that are either gun free zones, OR, if they are still intent on doing some shooting/killing, they're going to target ANYONE they see carrying a gun. Which means the open carry person is a primary target to any bad guy
I fully support the ban on open carry (which may put me at odds with certain conservatives), while at the same time fully support making concealed carry the goal of any would be law abiding legal gun owner, who wants to better protect themselves and their families, including when they're meeting up with their children at school
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Again, this guy is a nut. If I had a child in that school, I would not feel safer knowing that this nut is swaggering about with his gun.
People who think of themselves as Big Swinging Dicks, like this guy, are simply looking for trouble. They do not belong in school.
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Actually, no, he's looking to better defend his daughter, in a "we're a defenseless zone". If other parents have a problem with that, tough. If the state has legally approved this gentleman to be able to safely carry a firearm, then that should be the end of it.
He would do better at that, with concealed carry however
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He is not trying to defend squat. He is a gun nut defending his insanity.
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So that Government is that careless and irresponsible to have approved this obvious loon? ::)
Here's a test......Are you afraid of your car?? It can kill, you know
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If my car were folloig be about , going vroom, vroom, I would be afraid. My car was not intended to be a weapon. this fool's sidearm was.
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And what gun follows anyone around?? Last I checked they weren't endowed with artificial intelligence :o A car can be just as much a weapon as any firearm. So, I'll ask again....are you afraid of your car?
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Again, this guy is a nut. If I had a child in that school, I would not feel safer knowing that this nut is swaggering about with his gun.
People who think of themselves as Big Swinging Dicks, like this guy, are simply looking for trouble. They do not belong in school.
You are definitely projecting opinions/attitudes on this guy that he is not likely to really have.
If you managed to find a real example of the bad attitude you are describing, subtract the gun, what is he now?
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And what gun follows anyone around?? Last I checked they weren't endowed with artificial intelligence :o A car can be just as much a weapon as any firearm. So, I'll ask again....are you afraid of your car?
The silence speaks volume. I thank you 8)
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If my car had human intelligence and the personality of the prick that takes his dumbass gun to school, yeah, I would be afraid.
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As Plane demonstrated, you're applying attitudes on someone that doesn't fit. Where in human intelligence is being concerned for their daughter's overall safety, equating to being a prick??
Though at least you're starting to grasp the point being made here....it's the person behind the tool, NOT the tool itself. If the state/government has determined that this person is safe carrying a firearm, just as you've been deemed safe to drive a car, what's the problem?? Should we all be scared when you're on the road, because you're being a prick in choosing to drive an obviously dangerous automobile??
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In the entire history of this country, has a father with a sidearm ever rescued his daughter by shooting or even pointing his gun? I think not.
This guy is a paranoid prick. I bet the court rules against him.It sure should.
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You seemed to bypass the issue that the goal is to prevent. You don't make the effort AFTER the daughter or other children have been murdered. A little late then. He's merely a father devoted to the safety of his children, and those around him. And apparently the Government agrees. You're going to lose your liberal decoder ring, if you keep this up
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If my car had human intelligence and the personality of the prick that takes his dumbass gun to school, yeah, I would be afraid.
I feel it likely that your car has human intelligence in it once in a while.
The attitude of this I am not guessing.
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Taking you sidearm to your daughter's school is like getting a malaria shot before you go to Disney World. Except that, unlike the malaria shot, it frightens others.
There is no case in history where any pistol packing poppa prevented an attack on his child.
It is not just stupid, it is upsetting.
Not even YOU are insane and paranoid enough to open carry a pistol to a children's school.
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Strange how there's really more "human intel" in cars than there are in firearms. At least for the Civilian consumer
The issue that our dear professor seems to adopt is that the firearm simply "takes over" an otherwise normal sane person, turning them into dumbass prick, intent on wanting to "hurt someone". Can't seem to provide any examples of such.
It's all about the person, NOT the tool. A responsible person, approved by the government no less, is going to handle their firearm the same way the professor would handle their car. A responsible law abiding father carrying a sidearm is no different than a responsible law abiding xo driving his car. Neither are acting reckless or irrational
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This asshole reveals himself to be a paranoid asshole by his insistence on toting his gun into a school.
He is a very stupid man trying to make a very stupid point.
He has no need to wear his stupid gun. He should leave it in his car or at home.
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So, by direct comparison, since you keep insisting on making this about the tool, and not the person, you must be a paranoid asshole by insisting to drive a car to anywhere, especially when you taught your classes. I wouldn't have called such an act stupid, but, if the shoe fits I guess
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This is a wonderful occasion.
And a rare one.
I can disagree fully with both XO and Sirs.
Oh fabjurous day!
There is a good reason for this man to wear his pistol openly , and to insist on being seen with it on campus!
I am not certain I am reading his mind , but I am doing my best.
He could be wanting very much for it to be well known that this campus was NOT gun free, and that at least some of the armed are well motivated to protect the students.
That the campus is not gun free is not enough , it has to be very well known as not gun free.
This notoriety serves this purpose well.
Hats off to this Texan for making this campus a little less attractive to the mass killing set.