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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Lanya on January 14, 2008, 02:58:15 PM
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Alcove 1. Great Timothy Noah review of Jacob Heilbrunn's book on the neoconservatives, They Knew They Were Right:
...As late as 1944, the founding-neocon-to-be, Irving Kristol, publicly dismissed the ?near hysterical insistence upon the pressing military danger,? Jacob Heilbrunn reports in his new book, ?They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons.? While the Nazis herded Jews into the gas chambers, Kristol, then a 24-year-old Trotskyist, held fast to his conviction that the Allies were no different from the Axis in their imperialism. Kristol took this view because he was ?indulging in an abstract crusade for a better world.?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/books/review/Noah-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Sound familiar? . . .
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The clueless parade continues ........
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unabated.
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via http://www.warandpiece.com/
Alcove 1. Great Timothy Noah review of Jacob Heilbrunn's book on the neoconservatives, They Knew They Were Right:
...As late as 1944, the founding-neocon-to-be, Irving Kristol, publicly dismissed the ?near hysterical insistence upon the pressing military danger,? Jacob Heilbrunn reports in his new book, ?They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons.? While the Nazis herded Jews into the gas chambers, Kristol, then a 24-year-old Trotskyist, held fast to his conviction that the Allies were no different from the Axis in their imperialism. Kristol took this view because he was ?indulging in an abstract crusade for a better world.?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/books/review/Noah-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Sound familiar? . . .
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This guy sounds like the guy played by Joseph Wiseman in "Viva Zapata."
One side, other side, don't matter . . . with the crazy eye, he sees himself as savior to warn the world, and to urge one side against the other.
Crazy eye.
Good post.
It really is all about the Neocons and their crazy eye.
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The neocons are different from Marx, how?
The neocons are different from class equity people, how?
They all think govt is the answer, and they all think their answers are best.
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The neocons are different from Marx, how?
I don't think they are for the means of production belonging to the State, for one.
They need corporations to fund the rightwing foundations they nest in.
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The neocons are different from class equity people, how?
I don't know what a "class equity person is.
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They all think govt is the answer, and they all think their answers are best.
That, and the fact that nearly all their answers are wrong.
Can anyone identify something the Neocons have said that was actually true?
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Can anyone identify something the Neocons have said that was actually true?
I don't even know who neocons are.
Who is supposed to be in this movemet and leading it?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/neocon101.html
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Michael Lind, a self-described former neoconservative, wrote that neoconservatism "originated in the 1970s as a movement of anti-Soviet liberals and social democrats in the tradition of Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Humphrey and Henry ("Scoop") Jackson, many of whom preferred to call themselves 'paleoliberals.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#Drift_away_from_New_Left_and_Great_Society
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Again, what the poo is a 'class equity' person???
BT?
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Class equity types are the social justice types.
Take from the rich give to the poor types.
Those that think individual rights are a pox on humanity.
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Take from the rich give to the poor types.
You mean tax Donald Trump and Paris Hilton to educate poor children, don't you?
What a travesty of justice that would be!
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No i mean take away Trump and Hilton's wealth because it is unfair to that poor kid that they have it and he doesn't.
Education should be a universal endeavor, all should pay, including the poor.