DebateGate
General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: R.R. on October 29, 2012, 12:18:30 PM
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Rasmussen has Romney up 2 in Ohio. Gov. Kasich has said Romney is going to carry the state. Here's a good, solid ad to close the deal and bring this baby home.
Who Will Do More? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ8P04q6jqE#ws)
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Romney will be crushed in Ohio, and that is just what he deserves.
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Er, no, Romney is going to carry Ohio by up to 4 points. What did you think of that ad? Pretty uplifting, huh? Did you know that Lee Iacocca and the Detroit News endorsed Mitt?
This was a good book, by the way...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qGjOcO2UsB8/T5R2M1ZKtLI/AAAAAAAABbM/unkORYC9Hqw/s1600/boyracers+blog+Lee+Iacocca+Biography+HD+wallpaper+2012.jpg)
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Iacocca had maybe four good ideas. The guy was a huge ego on a stick.
I hardly think that his endorsement will amount to diddly. Maybe a bit more than Roger Smith's, but not by much.
I think all Republicans and their ads suck dead airedales.
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http://debategate.com/new3dhs/3dhs/new-romney-ad-misleads-on-auto-bailout/ (http://debategate.com/new3dhs/3dhs/new-romney-ad-misleads-on-auto-bailout/)
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This may appeal to you, XO. I actually picked up that Iacocca book at a yard sale for 50 cents. It was a good read. I think the Detroit News endorsement may change some votes and have an impact. They point out that it has actually been Obama that has been misrepresting Romney's position on the bailout. The Iacocca endorsement was perfect for that ad.
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Sorry, Hnumpah, the ad is accurate and very devastating to close out this race.
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Maybe technically accurate, but it does not tell the entire story. But then again, why should I expect the clique in here to do any better?
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Maybe technically accurate, but it does not tell the entire story. But then again, why should I expect the clique in here to do any better?
We do need another clique.
Maybe two more cliques.
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I read Iacocca's book several years ago. It was interesting, but the guy is really heavy on the self-promotion. There are lots better books on the car industry.
The 1964 Mustang was a marketing triumph, but the car itself was mostly just a fancied up Falcon. Mustangs since then have ranged from great to awful (the worst was the 74 Mustang II).
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Maybe technically accurate, but it does not tell the entire story.
Somehow I doubt that Romney would put things in his ads that would help Obama. How weird would that be? The ad was accurate, which is more than we can say for some of Obama's ads that have received 7 Pinocchios.
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I read Iacocca's book several years ago. It was interesting, but the guy is really heavy on the self-promotion. There are lots better books on the car industry.
The 1964 Mustang was a marketing triumph, but the car itself was mostly just a fancied up Falcon. Mustangs since then have ranged from great to awful (the worst was the 74 Mustang II).
I had one of those!
You are right , I was disapointed in it quite a bit.
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No ad is going to "close the deal" on an election.
That is just stupid.
Romney is full of lies. He has three positions on everything.
The only thing that Santorum and Gingrich agreed on was that Romney is a total flop. And it was the only thing that was actually TRUE. The guy is a lying chameleon, as well as a secretive tycoon.
He will be about as good a president as he was a Mormon evangelist.
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Plane ol' buddy, hard to see how you're going to get them. Every time someone comes in with something Sirs and the Bobsy twins disagree with, the first impulse is to beat them down. I pop in every once in a while for sport, and I usually see X number of members and quite a few guest lurkers probably out looking around for a forum to join, but I always see just the same few posters, usually posting the same old party line from the same old biased sources, leaving out any facts that might be detrimental to their cause, and bashing XO. The only reason I bother to stay for a while is to bust their chops some and try to teach them to use their head for something other than a hat rack. It doesn't have any effect.
But it's fun every once in a while.
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Plane ol' buddy, hard to see how you're going to get them...
But it's fun every once in a while.
It is you I am thinking of.
If you don't mind that I make you welcome by picking at your facts and arguments, you are totally welcome as far as I am concerned.
I too think that balance is lacking at present, but I can't produce a desireable balance myself.
If you post more often , and point out whatever logical flaws and factual errors I may present , I shall call you generous.
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Romney is full of lies. He has three positions on everything.
This is the approach that Axerod wanted to pursue, that Romney was a flip flopper. But they didn't take that rout based on the advice of Clinton. The Obama camapaign recently threw Bill Clinton under the bus and blamed him for Obama adopting the approach that Romney was an extreme conservative. I still don't know what Clinton has to gain by throwing in with this clown. He damaged his reputation doing so. He actually presided over job creation. Obama has not.
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ROMNEY referred to himself as a "severe conservative". He said he wants to "get rid" of Planned parenthood and wants to reverse Roe vs. Wade.
Plus, he's full of crap with his idiotic, totally unworkable tax plan. Not a chance he'd get it through Congress, and if he did, we'd be in worse shape than we are now.
It looks like he wants to appoint that moron Bolton to Sec of State. We don;t need that sucker anywhere NEAR a government.
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and bashing XO
Well, yeah. What's more fun than that?
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It is you I am thinking of.
If you don't mind that I make you welcome by picking at your facts and arguments, you are totally welcome as far as I am concerned.
Plane, you are welcome to pick away anytime.
Are you still trying to win that humility award?
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It looks like he wants to appoint that moron Bolton to Sec of State. We don;t need that sucker anywhere NEAR a government.
I would say to ask Hillary to stay on, but she has f**ked up Libya so horribly that that would never happen.
I think that the new Fed chairman is an even more important consideration at this time. Any ideas who Romney will appoint when he wins?
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Are you still trying to win that humility award?
On this Planet?
I am afraid that I never found any competition nearly humble enough to be in the same league , perhaps if we are visited by exxtraterestrials I can find a cosmic humility which would be fair competition.
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I will also add, XO, that Iaccoca is a life long Democrat and this is a flip for him from 2008. He endorsed Obama last time. So yeah I think his endorsement of Romney will carry weight.
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Romney is full of lies. He has three positions on everything.
This is the approach that Axerod wanted to pursue, that Romney was a flip flopper. But they didn't take that rout based on the advice of Clinton. The Obama camapaign recently threw Bill Clinton under the bus and blamed him for Obama adopting the approach that Romney was an extreme conservative. I still don't know what Clinton has to gain by throwing in with this clown. He damaged his reputation doing so. He actually presided over job creation. Obama has not.
Lets not forget , a few months ago, when we had a brace of Republican canadates, Romney was the one the Democrats found least obvjectionable.
If Romney is not a Moderate Republican , then none of the Republicans are .
To me personally "moderate" is not a wonderfull thing, but to call Romney an extremist is just an error.
And the thing that has flipped and flopped most has been the Democratic attitude twards Romney.
Romney got along fine as a govenor of a state with a majority Dem legeslature, what better than this could demonstrate a reasonable attitude?
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Romney did not get along fine in Massachusetts. He left office with a miserable approval rating of 36%.It would have been even lower than that if not for his most substantial feat, which was Romneycare.
Romney called himself a "severe conservative", not even a compassionate one. Apparently, if you are down and out and perhaps a fellow Mormon, maybe you can drop by the White House and he will write you a check or something.
The fact is, he will say or do anything, depending on how the wind might blow.
As for Iacocca. I doubt that if he endorsed Obama in 2008, it got many votes, and his endorsing Rawmoney in 2012 will have even less effect. It impresses you, but you would vote the Gingrich, Santorum, Cain, or Bachmann or perhaps [turn on echo box] S A T A N [turn off echo box] himself, if he agreed that lower tax rates would save us all.
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Romney called himself a "severe conservative", not even a compassionate one.
Which was smart, because it took Obama completely off his game. He didn't know how to handle it. See my post above. Obama was conflicted about going after Romney for being an extreme conservative which Bill Clinton was for or going after him for being a flip flopper which Axelrod preferred. Obama was all confused. I don't know anybody who thinks Romney is a "severe conservative." I see him as a competent manager which is what we need right now.
As for Iacocca. I doubt that if he endorsed Obama in 2008, it got many votes,
Unfortunately, it and the endorsement of Warren Buffet were played up big by the media last time to say that these are the types of friends Obama has, not Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers. Of course, it wasn't true. I can't see how the Iacocca endorsement will not help Romney in Michigan and Ohio. I think Romney will win Ohio by up to 4 points and Michigan is too close to call right now.
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I think Romney will win Ohio by up to 4 points and Michigan is too close to call right now.
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I think you are full of crap about this.
Tell us why the GOP has not bothered to even TRY to win votes in Massachusetts, where Rawmoney was such a great governor.
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Tell us why the GOP has not bothered to even TRY to win votes in Massachusetts
Scott Brown is campaigning there right now and is the sitting senator.
Romney is not campaigning there because it is not a battleground state. But he will benefit from being that liberal state's governor and working with an 87% Democrat legislature. He burned Obama at the first debate with that point.