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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on May 29, 2016, 11:07:57 PM

Title: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on May 29, 2016, 11:07:57 PM
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Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Plane on May 29, 2016, 11:39:26 PM
  This is her full employment plan.
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 30, 2016, 05:38:10 AM
Go on, send the Donald a juicy campaign contribution.
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: sirs on May 30, 2016, 10:22:55 AM
  This is her full employment plan.

LOL
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 30, 2016, 11:09:40 AM
The Donald wants your money! Send him money, so he won't have to spend his own!
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on May 30, 2016, 11:48:27 AM
whats hilarious about your crazy point is Crooked Hillary is the one that's
taken hundreds of millions of bribe money and Mr. Trump has not.
Crooked Hillary is Bought and Paid For! Trump is Not!
Trump has taken even less money than poor ole Bernie!

Hillary Wall Street Money! Way More Than Trump!
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-industries.php?ind=F07

Hillary Hedge Fund Money! Way More Than Trump!
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-industries.php?ind=F27

Hillary Big Banks! Way More Than Trump!
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-industries.php?ind=F03

Hillary Big Pharmaceuticals! Way More Than Trump!
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-industries.php?ind=H04

Hillary Big Oil and Gas! Way More Than Trump!
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-industries.php?ind=E01


Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 30, 2016, 01:07:40 PM
Trump claimed that he was honest and the proof was that he was not taking money from anyone.
But he has been begging on his website forever and selling his dumb hats and stuff.

Hillary has never claimed that she was not raising money.

If you want him to win, you are going to have to give him money, as he clearly will not spend a billion on his own campaign.
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: sirs on May 30, 2016, 01:09:23 PM
Actually, he'll clearly spend whatever he thinks he needs to spend     ::)
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Plane on May 30, 2016, 04:32:14 PM
I expect Hillary to be on the lower end of the range of trustworthy successful politicians.

I expect Trump to be as honest as the typical successful real-estate developer.

Neither is a high recommendation is it?
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: sirs on May 30, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
As someone recently told me, some people may disagree that Hillary is worse than Trump. They see them as occupying precisely the same bandwidth in the spectrum of failure. Not so. Hillary is demonstrably horrible, and in a purely utilitarian calculation.  The Donald offers a marginally greater chance of being less horrible. Hence, Trump.
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Plane on May 30, 2016, 05:06:01 PM
As someone recently told me, some people may disagree that Hillary is worse than Trump. They see them as occupying precisely the same bandwidth in the spectrum of failure. Not so. Hillary is demonstrably horrible, and in a purely utilitarian calculation.  The Donald offers a marginally greater chance of being less horrible. Hence, Trump.

I think your remark should be framed and hung over the presidents desk.

To remind him of our high expectations.
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 30, 2016, 06:22:12 PM
Trump lies and cheats and makes a lot of noise and  somehow thinks he is doing the world a favor.
He is ignorant and incompetent to handle politics.
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: sirs on May 30, 2016, 06:38:04 PM
While Clinton lies, lies, and lies some more and somehow thinks she is doing the world a favor.
She is corrupt and reckless to handle politics.
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 30, 2016, 07:22:59 PM
Contribute to the billionaire! If you don't someone else will buy him off with bigger bucks.
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\We are talking about a clown that had $50 neckties made in China so he can pocket an extra 70¢ on each one.
And then squawks about the Chinese eating our lunch.
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: sirs on May 30, 2016, 07:52:04 PM
Already told you, I have no need to.  This fixation you have on some need to contribute to him is quite.....fascinating however
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 31, 2016, 05:00:09 AM
The Good News Is That Donald Trumps Campaign Is an Absolute Strategic and Managerial Garbage Fire
New York Magazine
DAILY INTELLIGENCER - THE NATIONAL INTEREST
May 27, 2016
By Jonathan Chait
Donald Trump's election as president of the United States would pose an unprecedented threat to the health of American democracy and possibly world stability. There is, however, an upside: Trump's campaign is an absolute garbage fire. By all accounts it is the most organizationally and strategically inept campaign for a successful major-party nominee in recorded history. Ashley Parker and Maggie Haberman round up many of the details, but the basic story that emerges from their reports and others is that Trump has absolutely no idea what he's doing.

Trump is reliant on information he garners himself, and can be swayed by the last person he talked to, Parker and Haberman somewhat delicately put it. His campaign staff is far too small, and yet constantly at war with itself, already having gone through multiple shakeups and coups. In keeping with his general disdain for data, Trump has eschewed any use of analytics to target voters or competitive areas. Indeed, he has fixated bizarrely on plans to compete in New York and California, two states where any Republican faces hopeless odds against an entrenched Democratic electorate. He is currently in North Dakota for reasons nobody fully understands. He attacks fellow Republicans for no apparent reason. The super-pac donors who are supposed to be raising money on his behalf are disorganized and confused about basic questions like which super-pac they're supposed to donate to.

To the extent that running a competent campaign matters, it will hurt Trump very badly. Yes, he won the Republican primary by relying on a massive imbalance of media coverage and exploiting a divided, extremely large field that failed to coalesce against him. Yes, he tapped into deep strains of anger in the conservative base that fellow Republicans ignored. But he's not a political savant, and he hasn't abolished the rules of politics. He's a reality-television performer who tapped into a deep vein of cultural resentment that appeals to a decided minority of the electorate. Fortunately, many of the same qualities that would make Trump epically dangerous in the presidency - his impulsive ignorance, blustering arrogance, and contempt for data - also make him unlikely to obtain it.
Title: Re: Efficiency is a beautiful thing...and is severely needed in Washington!
Post by: Plane on May 31, 2016, 07:04:53 AM
Contribute to the billionaire! If you don't someone else will buy him off with bigger bucks.
\
\We are talking about a clown that had $50 neckties made in China so he can pocket an extra 70¢ on each one.
And then squawks about the Chinese eating our lunch.

Yea,...
  Makes you wonder why the government of China is contributing cash to the other candidate?