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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on September 15, 2016, 11:28:38 AM

Title: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on September 15, 2016, 11:28:38 AM
Hillary calls tens of millions of Working Class Americans "deplorable" and "irredeemable."

Yet she takes MILLIONS from these 7 foreign dictators and nations that murder, beat, and imprison LGBT individuals...

(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/HRC-with-Mideast-Oil-AP-640x480.jpg)

Below is a short list of Hillary Clinton's Deplorables.

Algeria donated $250,000 to $500,000 to the Clintons:
Gays and lesbians found guilty of "homosexual acts" can face imprisonment in Algeria. Hillary Clinton's State Department chided the north African nation for its human rights violations, but that didn't stop her family foundation from accepting a major donation from the Algerian Embassy.

Saudi Arabia donated up to $50 million to the Clintons:
Saudi Arabia's horrid human rights is no secret. In fact, Hillary Clinton's Sate Department criticized the Arab nation for its "lack of equal rights for women and children" and said human trafficking and violence against women are "common" in that country. Nevertheless, the Clinton Foundation has accepted tens of millions of dollars from Saudi Arabia over the years.

Anti-LGBT Russia: Bill Clinton earned $500,000 for a speech in Moscow paid for by a Kremlin-backed bank:
As first documented in Clinton Cash, the former president bagged $500,000 for a single Moscow speech paid for by a Russian investment bank that had ties to the Kremlin. "Why was Bill Clinton taking any money from a bank linked to the Kremlin while his wife was Secretary of State?" asks the New Yorker. Russia is renowned for it's open hostility to LGBT people. According to Human Rights Watch, Russia's anti-gay propaganda law, passed in 2013, "openly discriminates against LGBT people, legitimizes anti-LGBT violence, and seeks to erase LGBT people from the country's public life."

United Arab Emirates donated up to $11.5 million to the Clintons
The tiny Arab nation was ripped by Hillary Clinton's State Department for its many human rights abuses, including the government's interference "with privacy and to restrict civil liberties, including usage of the Internet." Despite reports of public floggings and a ban on "all sexual acts outside of heterosexual marriage," the Clinton Foundation still accepted millions from the UAB.

The Nation of Brunei donated $1,000,000 to $5,000,000 to the Clintons
Hillary Clinton's troubled charity was taking in millions of dollars in contributions from the nation of Brunei, all while her State Department was citing the tiny Asian country for a multitude of human rights abuses, including, "restrictions on religious freedom; exploitation of foreign workers; and limitations on freedom of speech, press, assembly and discrimination against women."

Kuwait donated $5,000,000 to $10,000,000 to the Clintons
This oil-rich nation was also reprimanded by Hillary Clinton's State department for its various "human rights problems". And Kuwait's policy to imprison gays for up to seven years notwithstanding, the Clinton Foundation still accepted its major donation.

Qatar donated $1,000,000 to $5,000,000 to the Clintons:
According to Qatar's penal code, the penalty for the crime of homosexual sex is up to seven years in prison. The Arab nation also has "continuing human rights concerns," according to a report released by Hillary Clinton's State Department. Those human rights restrictions include "freedom of religion, trafficking in persons, institutional, and cultural discrimination against women limited their participation in society."

Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 15, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
Suppose you have a foundation that wants to deal with some health problem, like river blindness.
Suppose that Algeria says it will contribute $250,000 to help with this problem.
The government of Algeria will not resign and hold elections as a condition for your accepting their money. You would almost certainly not like the government that the people of Algeria would elect in a fair election, by the way.

So what do you do? Take the money and dedicate it to the disease or reject it and let people go blind?

You seem incapable of rational thought, CU4.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 15, 2016, 02:40:33 PM
So...Senator & Presidential nominee Xo would have no problem taking, let's say, $100,000 from Nazi Germany, earmarked to treat Veterens who'd lost limbs, in a foundation you created, and at no time condeming their actions of war & exterminating Jews?

Really?

Oh wait, you probably don't have a problem with that
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 15, 2016, 05:41:40 PM
Algeria is not Hitler.
You cannot name the leader of Algeria without looking up the name.

I fail to see any reason why the US State department should not continue to insist on greater political freedom in Algeria even while accepting money fro the Clinton Foundation to cure river blindness.


Climb back in your basket, sirs.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 15, 2016, 05:51:17 PM
Concept is the same....do you take monies from some evil enterprise to support a "noble cause", and not condemn the evil?? 
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Plane on September 15, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
  What percent of blood money has to be spent nobly to make it honorable?

    What percent of graft needs to be given to the poor to convert it to honesty?

       How much of that money actually got spent for good things?

Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 16, 2016, 01:25:13 AM
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Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 16, 2016, 12:20:03 PM
Why do you assume that any of the money donated by Qatar or the UAE was not spent on the intended humanitarian causes?

Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 16, 2016, 12:41:13 PM
What proof of what % do we have that it was??
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 16, 2016, 01:49:41 PM
You could look it up before you gas off about it.

You HATE "double standards" but you LOVE inequality. You are pretty schizophrenic, aren't you?

How about Trump giving money from his Trump Foundation to Pam Bondi, the AG of Florida, who then decided not to investigate Trump"University"?  That was clearly illegal: charitable foundations cannot donate to political campaigns.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 16, 2016, 01:55:07 PM
So, no proof.  Thanks for the heads-up
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: kimba1 on September 16, 2016, 02:53:06 PM
i see this as a rescue . Afew weeks earlier trump blew up and hurt his campaign then hero hillary came to his rescue and made everybody forget his mistake.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 16, 2016, 03:00:01 PM
Oh I absolutely predicted this, in a previous thread.  Lemme see if I can find it

...............Here it is (http://debategate.com/new3dhs/index.php?topic=20129.msg182707#msg182707)

It'll be peanuts to the millions the Clintons have taken in for their pay to play money laundering machine, referred to as the Clinton Foundation, but it'll be fodder for the media in order to take the light and sinking poll #'s off Clinton's health and deplorable debackle
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Plane on September 17, 2016, 12:42:20 AM
Why do you assume that any of the money donated by Qatar or the UAE was not spent on the intended humanitarian causes?

Because the Clintons are Billionaires .


Gathering and controlling more billions is not just the point of the Clinton foundation, it is the point of the Clintons.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 17, 2016, 12:18:12 PM
There are organizations that evaluate charities, and the Clinton Foundation is rated as better than average in terms of results vis a vis donations. Anyone can check them out that actually wants to find out the truth.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 17, 2016, 12:55:45 PM
Why can't you back up your own opinion?  Why should anyone be obligated to do your homework, in trying to validate your claim??
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 17, 2016, 04:48:49 PM
You are not interested in the truth, sirs, you are a silly lamebrained hack.

I gave upon changing you mind long ago. I do not come to present the truth Mostly, I come to mock.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 17, 2016, 05:04:31 PM
You can't handle the truth.....otherwise you'd back up your opinion with it.  Your accusations aren't made to try and change my POV.  They're to provide a source of debate...or in you case, comedy

And one more time for the linguistically challenged.....this isn't about me, my POV, or some misguided attempt to change my mind.  Its about YOU, backing up your OWN DAMN CLAIMS....so folks like Plane and Kimba, and anyone else that reads these posts, can say, "ahhhh, that's why" or "that's how"

But at least we got some honesty in that you really have no intention of providing truthful claims.  So, I suppose that's some progress 
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Plane on September 18, 2016, 02:33:24 AM
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/clinton-foundation-controversy-actual-work

If the Clinton Foundation is better than the average , this speaks poorly of the average.

MotherJones asks how effective the organization is , and simply finds the question hard to answer.


Perhaps some of the collected money distributes some needed drugs and starts up some admirable small businesses, perhaps , but the evidence that this is effective is hard to dig up.

What is easy to find is the fact that Clinton cronies get fantastic wages from the foundation and the foundation owns a few aircraft that carry the Clintons about .


Hey if you trust HRC why not believe it all effective ? She simply says so .


By the way ,the Clintons promise to quit all of this if Hillary is elected .
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 18, 2016, 12:39:28 PM
I do not see how the Clinton Foundation in any way makes Hillary an inferior candidate for president than the totally unqualified blowhard egomaniac that is running against her.

As president, she will certainly not need free plane rides from her Foundation. So that is simply immaterial to the discussion. President can, do and should have the use of US One to fly them about.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 18, 2016, 01:31:38 PM
I do not see how the Clinton Foundation in any way makes Hillary an inferior candidate for president

Because it demonstrates just how much she prioritized secrecy over national security.  It demonstrates a pathological lying that discredits anyone, especially a President, from being taken seriously.  Because it demonstrates, that even at one of the highest levels of Government, (Secretary of State), she had no problem selling her influence and ability to manipulate policy to the highest bidder, including foreign.

That's how
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Plane on September 18, 2016, 05:12:32 PM
  Sleaze factor.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on September 18, 2016, 05:13:29 PM
Worthless gibbering.
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: sirs on September 18, 2016, 05:21:40 PM
We'll see if the electorate thinks such, com Nov.  You may find the majority of the country found it far more than mere gibberish
Title: Re: Hillary's "deplorables" double standard
Post by: Plane on September 18, 2016, 05:28:23 PM
  Hillary can win.

There is a trouble now with her coming in through a squeeeeking thin margin against the least candidate ever faced by a Democrat.

    Her election sans coattails and with such a thin margin means we will have a regime with small mandate to make changes. Divided government and gridlock worse than ever.


  For those who like government small, this is reason to be sanguine.