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« on: November 11, 2008, 09:47:54 PM »
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If Barack Obama inspired you so much that after voting for him you now want to work for him, there are thousands of jobs to be had in the new administration.

There are coveted presidential appointments and a huge array of staff positions. But you have to start the ball rolling right now, especially if you weren’t an integral part of the presidential campaign.

You can head over to the newly minted Web site for the Obama transition team and fill out an application for a job right on the site. But like traditional job sites, this strategy probably won’t get you very far. Getting a job with the new administration is pretty much like getting any job: It’s all about connections.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27476450/


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Slideshow: Honoring Veterans
President-elect Barack Obama and Iraq war veteran Tammy Duckworth shared a moment of silence at 11 a.m. this morning after laying a wreath at the Soldiers Memorial in Chicago.
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 05:35pm EST / in Press Releases
Obama Transition Announces Rules for Lobbyists in Transition
During a briefing today at the Presidential Transition Team headquarters, Obama Transition Co-Chair John Podesta announced the strictest, and most far reaching ethics rules of any transition team in history. 

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 05:28pm EST / in Press Releases
Statement of President-elect Barack Obama on Veterans Day
“As we mark Veterans Day, all Americans are united in honoring the extraordinary service and selfless sacrifice of our nation’s veterans.”

Monday, November 10, 2008 06:47pm EST / in Blog
President-elect Obama and President Bush Meet at White House
President George Bush and First Lady Laura Bush warmly welcomed President-elect Barack Obama and Michelle Obama to the White House this afternoon for a visit that lasted several hours
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 10:28:49 PM »
"Getting a job with the new administration is pretty much like getting any job: It’s all about connections."

Funny; I naively thought that obtaining a Federal Government job (Civil Service not appointee) centers around hiring the most capable applicant. Is hiring at the the Base you work at done via hiring the most capable or "by connections"?
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 11:53:28 PM »
There are two types of jobs in any administration: civil service jobs, and political appointments. Civil Service jobs are generally awarded on merit, though letters of recommendation are accepted and considered.  Political appointments are general awarded first by requiring some sort of campaign experience or at least loyalty to the candidate, and then merit within that group. No president, vp or senator wants a partisan of an opposing party on his/her staff. Who would?
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 11:08:50 AM »
So what do Judicial nominations fall under??  Merit or Loyalty?
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 11:25:06 AM »
So what do Judicial nominations fall under??  Merit or Loyalty?


Merit. That is why Juniorbush had so much trouble when Gonzalez fired a bunch of judges for not being sufficiently pro-Republican.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 12:02:34 PM »
So, when Obama pledges to nominate Judges not based so much on merit, but by how much empathy they have for minorities, in other words, pro-Democrat, he's pulling a Bush, obviously.  Which apparently obligates the opposition to kick, scream, and proclaim, "hell no". 

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 01:45:08 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on November 12, 2008, 11:25:06 AM
Merit. That is why Juniorbush had so much trouble when Gonzalez fired a bunch of judges for not being sufficiently pro-Republican.

He fired judges? I thought he fired attorneys.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 01:49:32 PM »
D'oh.....I thought something seemed a bit cockeyed, yet I missed it.  Thanks for the clarification, Ami
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 02:51:20 PM »
Merit. That is why Juniorbush had so much trouble when Gonzalez fired a bunch of judges for not being sufficiently pro-Republican.

He fired judges? I thought he fired attorneys.

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They were part of the judicial system and were supposed to be chosen on merit, not party affiliation.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 03:16:31 PM »
Quote from: Xavier_Onassis on November 12, 2008, 02:51:20 PM
They were part of the judicial system and were supposed to be chosen on merit, not party affiliation.

Clinton fired all of 'em and selected ones based on party affiliation. So, when Bush (via Gonzales) fired SOME of them and replaced them with others, he was just restoring balance.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2008, 07:32:48 PM »
Quote from: The_Professor on November 11, 2008, 10:28:49 PM
"Getting a job with the new administration is pretty much like getting any job: It’s all about connections."

Funny; I naively thought that obtaining a Federal Government job (Civil Service not appointee) centers around hiring the most capable applicant. Is hiring at the the Base you work at done via hiring the most capable or "by connections"?
There has been a lot done to prevent nepotism.

There is still a lot of needing to know the right people.

It is mixed , merit counts a lot and so does haveing connection.
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