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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on July 05, 2016, 10:00:08 AM
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http://settingrecordstraight.blogspot.com/2016/06/facebook-bans-lt-col-allen-west.html
First it was Pam Geller now the latest victim of Facebook’s extreme policies, is retired Col. Allen B. West, whose popular page on facebook was recently hit with a 30-day ban after somehow “violating Facebook’s terms and conditions.” The popular Facebook page with over 400,000 fans, was suddenly punished after posting a meme that simply stated that on 9/11, 3000 innocent people were killed without the use of guns.
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No, it does not.
It does NOT prove that Facebook is racist.
It proves that Facebook has it in for Allen West.
Hos post had nothing to do with race.
Now if Facebook suspended all Black people's pages or the pages of all Black people that stated something about gunless murders, THAT you might call racist.
People who do not like Col West do not dislike him because he is Black. They generally dislike him because of the wacko things he says.
To call Facebook racist, it needs to be proved that West was suspended because he is Black.
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Why not...it works for critics of Obama. He's Black, therefore anyone that criticises him has been declared racist. Isn't that how it works?
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No, it is not how it works. Don't be an idiot.
You hate both Democrats and Obama, so your view of reality is warped.
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Well, given you hate Republicans and Trump, per your own parameters, makes your view of reality warped. See how that works?
And news flash, I don't "hate anyone". What I "hate" is the ideology so many bring to the table, trying to control every aspect of my life, and everyone else's
But back to the point, you yourself frequently condemn critics of Obama racist based on....nothing more than he's Black. His policies and actions apparently have nothing to do with it, we condemn him because he's black.....is the mantra of the cool-aide drinking Obama sychophants. So, what's the difference here? Allen West is Black, ergo, Facebook must be racist.....if were to use the left's parameters for what is and isn't racist
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No, it does not.
It does NOT prove that Facebook is racist.
It proves that Facebook has it in for Allen West.
No.
I think the proof is positive.
Facebook is letting the equivalent and the very same meme go unpunished, but they have a lower tolerance level for Allen West.
So between Allen West and the facebookers that get away with worse what is the single or the most outstanding difference?
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There is no evidence that Facebook dislikes Allen West because of his race.
There are many reasons to dislike Allen West.I dislike him because he is a dick who says really, really stupid things.
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And yet people who dislike Obama's policies are proclaimed racist because.......why again??
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There is no evidence that Facebook dislikes Allen West because of his race.
There are many reasons to dislike Allen West.I dislike him because he is a dick who says really, really stupid things.
I don't know what you mean by stupid.
But it is not what he said by itself , because white people saying this same thing do not get hushed up.
If you say these things while black you can't be tolerated.
This seems like Facebook supporting a racial double standard , it seems it so strong that it is hard to imagine a better explanation.
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He said Ann Coulter crap, and of course, no same person thinks much of Coulter or West.
But Coulter says crap to sell books to a special audience, and succeeds.
West said crap to voters, in hopes of getting elected, and failed.
I am seeing a lot of Coulter, O Reilly and Hannity books on sale at garage sales lately.
Perhaps it is an omen. I think West wrote some book, but I have yet to see it anywhere.
He should get into the ratbag right wing book authors' assembly. I am sure he would be well received.
Dogwhistle racists need a Black person they can quote to convince themselves they are not racists.
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And yet people who dislike Obama's policies are proclaimed racist because.......why again??
Couldn't pull yourself out of that hole. No surpise there
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And yet people who dislike Obama's policies are proclaimed racist because.......why again??
Because many of them are, in fact, racists, and the rest have allied themselves with racists.
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That's all.....just an invalid opinion of a connection? Plane made a far stronger case to Facebook's racism. Thanks for helping to validate Plane's claim. 8)
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He said Ann Coulter crap, and of course, no same person thinks much of Coulter or West.
But Coulter says crap to sell books to a special audience, and succeeds.
West said crap to voters, in hopes of getting elected, and failed.
I am seeing a lot of Coulter, O Reilly and Hannity books on sale at garage sales lately.
Perhaps it is an omen. I think West wrote some book, but I have yet to see it anywhere.
He should get into the ratbag right wing book authors' assembly. I am sure he would be well received.
Dogwhistle racists need a Black person they can quote to convince themselves they are not racists.
He thinks for himself , which in my circles is allowed , even for members of minorities.
Individuality, try it with a friend!
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Looks like Allen West is back.
I don't know how his ban got shortened, I thought Facebook was impossible to embarrass.
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If West was back, then perhaps his disappearance was not done by the Facebook people who normally discipline people who violate Facebook guidelines, but by some underline who just dislikes West. I doubt that West will ever be able to regain his seat. Broward Country is very liberal and West is not. He should move to some more Conservative location.
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Former Florida Congressman Allen West wrote in a blog post Wednesday that he was "delighted" the FBI will not recommend charges against Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email system as secretary of state.
"I can't thank Director [James] Comey enough for coming to this decision," West wrote.
The conservative firebrand said he "always" had "concern" President Barack Obama would "release the hounds" on Clinton in an effort to replace her as the presumptive Democratic nominee with Vice President Joe Biden.
Biden, West contended, would have been far more difficult for Donald Trump to defeat in November.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/allen-west-explains-why-cant-214432078.html
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I like Biden as well.
I might have voted for him in the primary, but his name was not on the ballot.
But Hillary is a bazillion times better than Trump.
The meme that Trump is so rich he doesn't need to steal seems logical, but it is belied by the fact that even after Trump has every conceivable comfort that anyone could possibly need, he scams fools in his houseflipping courses with his bogus "university".
Now he claims that a six-pointed star on a pile of money sent in one of his tweets is not really a Star of David, it is just a star.
Let us consider stars: three pointed star? Mercedes Benz
Four pointed star? Lincoln and several other brands.
Five pointed star? There are fifty of these on ove flag. Chrysler uses a pentagon star combo they call the Pentastar.
Seven pointed star? Wyatt Earp's badge
Six pointed star? Most of the residents of Auschwitz wore these. There is one on the Presbyterian flag. Trump is considering naming Newt Gingrich, prominent failrd Speaker and congressman and fellow serial arm candy connoisseur as his running mate. The Newtster ran his presidential campaign on themoney of Prominent Presbyterian Sheldon Adelson.
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=adk&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&p=adelson&type=appfocus5_dm_ff¶m1=20160616¶m2=0910b609-eb0b-4001-a79f-0cb38eff3a6d¶m3=dm_0.2.1~US~appfocus5¶m4=googledisplay~firefox
"It's just a star!" says Trump.
I suspect that it was posted by someone who wanted to sabotage Trump.
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I do not think the star mistake is as consequential as a Secretary of state attempting to circumvent the law and escape the Freedom Of Information Act.
If Trump is making his own graphics I will be quite surprised , I don't even expect a saboteur , just someone who didn't automatically make that connection. I don't think I would have , the star the Jews were forced to wear in the Holocaust era were yellow and included the word "jew" or the initial "J", the star on the Israeli flag is blue and white and shows its internal lines.
Hillary Clinton herself led her staff to avoid using the secure network which is the governments corral of secrecy and the publics eventual access to the historical story. If it is more important to her to hide her thoughts from the American Public than from any and all enemies of the United States then she just does not trust the American People enough for us to trust her in return.
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No one even tried to convict Trump for any crime by posting his Star of David on a pile of money. There was not even a hearing over it.
After millions of man hours wasted on this and Benghazi, Hillary will not be convicted of anything. Hillary is a popular political figure: in the primaries, she got more votes than Trump.
This star on the money thing is only a stupid flap. Trump's reaction was stupid, though. It shows that he is an ignorant, stubborn prick who cares not at all that anyoine might be offended by the dumb crap that is done in his name.
What sort of country arrests presidential candidates? Pakistan. Has this strategy worked well in Pakistan? It has not.
Turkey used to do this sort of shit as well, when the army was in charge. Egypt is famous for throwing politicians in jail.
The US does not need to emulate Pakistan, Egypt or Turkey.
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So basically, justifying any President or Presidential nominee from being immune to criminal conduct and being arrested for it. Got it
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If it prevents us from being a mess like Pakistan, it is certainly worth it.
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Good to know now how you've changed your position on Bush, and Cheney, when you originally were proclaiming their need to be arrested....by the global community no less
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I am still in favor of arresting Cheney. He is pretty much evil personified.
I do not expect this to happen, though.
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Hillary fiddled around with her computer.
Dick Cheney mongered a war that resulted in over a hundred thousand deaths. He refused to do in Zarqawi befire the invasion, and that is why we have Isis.
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Clinton's diddling, compromised an entire country's national security
And that JV team called ISIS is ALL on Obama
But I appreciate you going on record with the hypocritical double standard. Thanks
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Hillary fiddled around with her computer.
No....
Hillary willfully built a computer system for the purpose of frustrating the American public when it wants the truth .
Dick Cheney mongered a war that resulted in over a hundred thousand deaths. He refused to do in Zarqawi befire the invasion, and that is why we have Isis.
No...
That war was still going on and is still going on, Cheney was not in office when it started.
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You are an ass, sirs.
Here is how Cheney deliberately ignored the CIA and caused the creation of Isis.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/rise-of-isis/
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ISIS mutated ....wait for it....UNDER OBAMA. What might have started under Bush/Cheney was a mere fraction of a fraction of its current form. What once wasn't even a JV team, turned professional as soon as Obama initiated his policies of appeasement & withdrawal. What we have now, in the form of ISIS is ALL Obama (& Clinton)
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Where can we get a real timeline on that?
I agree that President Obama promoted policies that encouraged Isis that supporters to think they had a chance, which they do not.
It will be over soon after the Muslims decide to quit.
No sooner than that no matter who is president.
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The Frontline documentary explains the entire rise of Isis in great detail. I am not going to spoon feed it to you. Watch it and learn, ignore it and stay ignorant.
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No need to spoonful anything. Even if it "started" under Bush/Cheney, it became this "JV" MONSTER, under Obama and HIS policies ::)
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When did the administration realize that Isis was a Junior Varsity team?
Will frontline accuse President Obama of being very obtuse in comparison to the reporters and editors of Frontline?
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Just watch the fucking thing, already.
Allen West has proven nothing.
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Dr Deflection strikes again ::)
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stay on the topic or leave it; it is all deflection to sirs,
That is because sirs is pointless.
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You are an ass, sirs.
Here is how Cheney deliberately ignored the CIA and caused the creation of Isis.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/rise-of-isis/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/rise-of-isis/
Hmmm... I am watching this , and I do not see what you are saying.
This looks like a time line starting with the exit of occupying forces while President Obama was celebrating the good situation .
After this it looks like president Maliqui behaves like an idiot son of Stalin and president Obama does not do much effective about it.
Are we watching the same thing , this hasn't used Cheney's name at all yet?
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stay on the topic or leave it; it is all deflection to sirs,
That is because sirs is pointless.
The topic is how Plane is trying to demonstrate how utterly devoid the left is with its claims of racism, based on nothing more than the person is black. Plane isn't stating that "Allen west proved facebook racist". He demonstrated how ridiculous it is to claim racism based merely on a person's skin color. THAT's the point being made. A deflection would be like........look at some video that's irrelvent to how ISIS became the monster it became, and under who's "watch that was", or.....Allen West has proven nothing. Those would be deflection efforts. If you can't stay on topic, as someone just recently demanded...leave it.
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Allen West is not loathed because he is Black. He is loathed because he is a loathsome person who says loathsome things.
Facebook shutting down his page for a day is not some great crime or in fact any sort of crime at all.
His stupid page is now up for all to see and delight in the loathsomeness that is Allen West
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Of course he's loathed for being Black. How dare he have an opinion, and brain of his own, that doesn't tow the liberal mantra of how much a victim he's supposed to be, given his race. But agaion, the point wasn't, and ever was about him supposedly proving anything. Its about snap judgments of racism, based on nothing more than skin color. The left pulls that crap every day, when it comes to Obama critics, when Obama is merely saying loathsome things and pushing horrid policies
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There are White people who are equally loathed.
West is not a typical congressman, he is more of an asshole talk show rantster, who says crap to deliberately piss people off.
Mitch McConnell and Petey Ryan on does this every once in a while.
He won't ever darken the portals of the Halls of Congress again, unless he moves to SC or AL.
Which would suit me just fine.
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You are an ass, sirs.
Here is how Cheney deliberately ignored the CIA and caused the creation of Isis.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/rise-of-isis/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/rise-of-isis/
Hmmm... I am watching this , and I do not see what you are saying.
This looks like a time line starting with the exit of occupying forces while President Obama was celebrating the good situation .
After this it looks like president Maliqui behaves like an idiot son of Stalin and president Obama does not do much effective about it.
Are we watching the same thing , this hasn't used Cheney's name at all yet?
Ok I have just watched this and reviewed some interesting passages.
This "Frountline" makes Maliki look like the worst part of the problem and President Obama look like someone with a severe case of inertia.
Look,..... if a Democrat looks bad on PBS, that is bad indeed.
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There is no evidence that Facebook dislikes Allen West because of his race.
Well it is a lot to hang on a single example , but this one example is very egregious and clearly racist.
There are certain opinions that Black people just may not have, in the opinions of their great white fathers at headquarters Facebook.
BTW, is the administration of Facebook integrated?
I need to look at that.
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BTW, is the administration of Facebook integrated?
I need to look at that.
https://www.facebook.com/editorcommunity/
Hmmmm....
There are some problems , but no problem with being integrated racially and internationally.
That is a group of volunteers working in hopes of getting a tee shirt.
Or of being an influence to the internet, whichever is greater.
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Now watch how your opinion can be just as equally applied......and then you answer if its racist or not
There are White people who are equally loathed.
Obama is not a typical senator, he is more of an asshole talk show rantster, who says crap to deliberately piss people off.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid on does this every once in a while.
He won't ever darken the portals of the Halls of Congress again, unless he moves to SC or AL.
Which would suit me just fine.
Now.....was that racist?
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Not really.
West lives near me, but the odds of me meeting him are slim, and he could do me no harm.
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Not really.
Putting aside the irrelevancy of where you and West live, glad we got the idiotic notion of criticizing Obama is automatically racist, simply because he's black, out of the way