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Re: Qaddafi's regime fell in Tripoli just before midnight Sunday
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2011, 11:51:40 PM »
Would less than ten years of search have been enough?

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Re: Qaddafi's regime fell in Tripoli just before midnight Sunday
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2011, 01:03:50 AM »
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The Seals would never have carried out that raid without Obama's orders and you bloody well know that.

This was a 4 year plan that was put in place before Obama came into office. Obama was golfing while these soldiers were putting their lives on the line. Anybody would have given that order. It was a no brainer. This was not an order that Obama came up with. Our military commanders told him to do it. This fell in Obama's lap and I'm surprised he didn't fuck it up in some way. But again, the Seals got bin Laden, not Obama. He did very little.

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Re: Qaddafi's regime fell in Tripoli just before midnight Sunday
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2011, 02:18:16 PM »
He did very little.

Just as Carter did very little when he decided to invade Iran and rescue the hostages.
But who got the blame when it all went wrong, due to a sand storm and a collision? The president!

It was probably wise for Obama to act like nothing unusual was happening, as that prevented any Al Qaeda es from thinking that something was happening.

Without Obama evaluating the raid and giving his OK, it would not have happened.

Had it gone wrong, we KNOW that you would not be blaming the seals.
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Re: Qaddafi's regime fell in Tripoli just before midnight Sunday
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2011, 03:07:20 PM »
Obama didn't plan it or coordinate it. Like I said, this 4 year operation just fell in his lap. Any president would have said yes to it. It didn't take a genius to grant an order that the military told him to grant. He looked like a boy watching the raid on monitor too. He's in over his head with this job.

The American people don't give him much credit either. His so called bump in the polls was very short lived, and now he stands at a dismal 38% and will be voted out of office next year for all of his screw ups.

Bin Ladin didn't even have control of the organization any more. He apparently got off watching old news footage of himself on a very old tv set.

The new leader of al qaeda is Dr. Zawahiri. When will Obama "get" him? Does the dipshit even care? Can he step off a golf course for one fricken second to do his job?

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Re: Qaddafi's regime fell in Tripoli just before midnight Sunday
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2011, 08:42:58 PM »
  President Obama had to decide how to bring this down, there were alternatives.
   

     An all Air Force mission that would unload enough high explosive on that house to make survival of any and all impossible. This is a very dependable method , hardly has a way to go wrong. The large smoking hole might not give up enough Osama particles to prove it tho.

     A Raptor firing a hellfire could be done by the CIA alone, if they really knew his exact location this would have very likely worked and would have risked very little, another advantage would be easy cleanup.

     A regiment sized invading force could parachute in and slug it out .....

       An infiltrating spy could have poisoned Osamas grocerys ...

      A force of Packistani police and army could have crept close and stormed the ......Hahahahahahaha I can't pretend that trusting the Packistani government was a real choice.

         A sniper on a roof could have done it with one .50cal round from a mile and a half away.

          A LNG truck parked across the street could be induced to ignite, produceing a Bleve.

   Etc... Etc...

       Now is the time for second guessing ,with hindsight on our side we can certainly come up with a better plan .

       But the President never has the advantage of hindsight, he hasn't got every possible plan availible either.

       I think that President Obama made a good decision , can't argue with the results.
       Really .....this would have been a good decision with less good results.
       A decision can't be quantified only on the basis of results , it has to be juged also as it compares to the other realistic options that were really availible.

        Like the choice to do nothing at all, that one was there, and at least two previous presidents gave Osama Bin Laden benefit of the doubt when he was in someones gunsight.


        Considering all the availible information, I  am ready to call this a good decision on the part of the president.

       Kudos also to the military personell who by dint of excellence made a raid like this into an availible choice.

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Re: Qaddafi's regime fell in Tripoli just before midnight Sunday
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2011, 02:52:16 PM »
The new leader of al qaeda is Dr. Zawahiri. When will Obama "get" him? Does the dipshit even care? Can he step off a golf course for one fricken second to do his job?

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Of course, unless President Obama did not actually personally kill Zawahiri with a bazooka, he would get no credit from the likes of you, would he? No matter what he does, he is a golf-playing dipshit to you.

And again, had the raid on bin Laden not been a total success, you would blame all failure on Obama, because that is the sort of hypercritical reactionary that you are.
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