McDonalds answers Left ridiculous demand for $15 min wage!

[sirs]

LOL...yea, the same Unions that want to exempt themselves from the very minimum wage increase, they want to force on everyone else.  Exactly the type of denouncing I'm looking forward to any of the Candidates bringing to light

[Xavier_Onassis]

All unions for schmucks like you are the same.

Unions are democratic, and they do what their members ask them to do.

[sirs]

    That was a good one

[Plane]

All unions for schmucks like you are the same.

Unions are democratic, and they do what their members ask them to do.

   I wish this were so.

[sirs]

Me too....which is why I got such a chuckle the 1st time that line was given.  It could only be taken as a joke

[Xavier_Onassis]

Every teachers' union I ever belonged to was democratic, so was the UAW at the Claycomo Ford where I worked. If you wanted to affect change in the local chapter, you could volunteer for various committees and become a shop steward.

[Plane]

  Is it possible to instruct the high command at Union HQ that they should not give campaign contribution strictly to one party with no discernible quid pro quo ,nor any evidence that the membership likes the beneficiaries?

  I am a Union member in good standing, but I oppose vehemently the idea of involuntary membership , or mandatory union shop. This measure removes all leverage the workforce should have on the union leadership.

[sirs]

  I am a Union member in good standing, but I oppose vehemently the idea of involuntary membership , or mandatory union shop. This measure removes all leverage the workforce should have on the union leadership.

BINGO!

[Xavier_Onassis]

Without your union, you would surely be worse off than you are now.

There is no bingo, sirs, you are such an ass.

[sirs]

Surely, is just your opinion, while the point Plane made, that you couldn't refute is the notion that its the members who tell leadership what to do, when its pretty much the exact opposite

[Xavier_Onassis]

The members do, in fact tell the leadership what to do.
There are ample avenues in nearly all unions for the average member to rise to a position in which he can voice his opinion of what the union should do. Of course, if his opinion is that the union should  just dry up and blow away, that is not a useful suggestion. That would be like electing anarchists. The union needs to be strong to get what it wants from management. To say that the union should try to act to have fewer members is counter to the purpose of the union.It would be like the batmaker advocating making the bats of balsa wood.

[sirs]

The members do, in fact tell the leadership what to do.

They do in fact...don't.  The do in fact are mandated to pay dues, to support causes they may not support in any way.   They are told what they're going to support, and just shut up, because they know better

Unions, like the NAACP, were once absolutely beneficial and well intentioned.   But years of apparent ability for control, have mutated those organisations simply into massive Democrat PAC's, who care more about their own power & growing their #'s, than actually fighting for American workers or African Americans

[Xavier_Onassis]

Union menbers can opt out of political action committees as they wish and have been able to do this for ages.

[Plane]

.................    have mutated those organisations simply into massive Democrat PAC's, who care more about their own power & growing their #'s, than actually fighting for American workers ............................

Yes, that.

Being so fully wedded to the Democratic party allows the Dems to rely on our monetary support even when they align us with causes contrary to our interests.

Consider the immigration policy that would really benefit Union Membership, and see how that compares with Democratic plans and platform.

[Plane]

Without your union, you would surely be worse off than you are now.

Oh yes !
I would never say otherwise. I have been personally helped by my union when I was in some troubles.

I work for the US Government , one of the worst bosses on the planet, there has to be someone to represent my interests.

But I will never go on strike , we will never have a union shop, we will never forget PATCO.