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One-third support some torture
« on: October 19, 2006, 11:57:09 PM »
 One-third support 'some torture'
Nearly a third of people worldwide back the use of torture in prisons in some circumstances, a BBC survey suggests.

Although 59% were opposed to torture, 29% thought it acceptable to use some degree of torture to combat terrorism.

While most polled in the US are against torture, opposition there is less robust than in Europe and elsewhere.

More than 27,000 people in 25 countries were asked if torture would be acceptable if it could provide information to save innocent lives.

Some 36% of those questioned in the US agreed that this use of torture was acceptable, while 58% were unwilling to compromise on human rights.

   

The percentage favouring torture in certain cases makes it one of the highest of all the countries polled.

The majority of those questioned in the BBC World Service poll - 19 of the 25 countries surveyed - agree that clear rules against torture in prisons should be maintained because it is immoral and its use would weaken human rights standards.

"The dominant view around the world is that terrorism does not warrant bending the rules against torture," said Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA), whose organisation helped conduct the survey.

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All of the countries surveyed have signed up to the Geneva Conventions which prohibit the use of torture and cruel and degrading behaviour.

   
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But countries that face political violence are more likely to accept the idea that some degree of torture is permissible because of the extreme threat posed by terrorists.

Israel has the largest percentage of those polled endorsing the use of a degree of torture on prisoners, with 43% saying they agreed that some degree of torture should be allowed.

However, a larger percentage - 48% - think it should remain prohibited.

   
The question
Most countries have agreed to rules prohibiting torturing prisoners. Which position is closer to yours?
Terrorists pose such an extreme threat that governments should now be allowed to use some degree of torture if it may gain information that saves innocent lives
Clear rules against torture should be maintained because any use of torture is immoral and will weaken international human rights

Other countries that polled higher levels of acceptance of the use of torture include Iraq (42%), the Philippines (40%), Indonesia (40%), Russia (37%) and China (37%).

The Israeli figure conceals a stark difference in attitude within the country, split along religious lines.

A majority of Jewish respondents in Israel, 53%, favour allowing governments to use some degree of torture to obtain information from those in custody, while 39% want clear rules against it.

But Muslims in Israel, who represent 16% of the total number polled, are overwhelmingly against any use of torture.

Meanwhile opposition to the practise is highest in Italy, where 81% of those questioned think torture is never justified.

Australia, France, Canada, the UK and Germany also registered high levels of opposition to any use of torture.

The survey was carried out for the BBC World Service by polling firm Globescan and the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA).

Views on torturing prisoners
Country    Against all torture *    Some degree permissible *    Neither/Don't Know
Australia    75%    22%    3%
Brazil    61%    32%    8%
Canada    74%    22%    4%
Chile    62%    22%    16%
China    49%    37%    13%
Egypt    65%    25%    9%
France    75%    19%    6%
Germany    71%    21%    7%
Gt Britain    72%    24%    4%
India    23%    32%    45%
Indonesia    51%    40%    8%
Iraq    55%    42%    1%
Israel    48%    43%    9%
Italy    81%    14%    6%
Kenya    53%    38%    9%
Mexico    50%    24%    27%
Nigeria    49%    39%    12%
Philippines    56%    40%    5%
Poland    62%    27%    12%
Russia    43%    37%    19%
S Korea    66%    31%    3%
Spain    65%    16%    19%
Turkey    62%    24%    14%
Ukraine    54%    29%    18%
US    58%    36%    7%
Average    59%    29%    12%
*27,000 respondents in 25 countries were asked which position was closer to their own views:

    * Clear rules against torture should be maintained because any use of torture is immoral and will weaken international human rights standards against torture.
    * Terrorists pose such an extreme threat that governments should now be allowed to use some degree of torture if it may gain information that saves innocent lives.

Source: BBC/Globescan/PIPA


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Re: One-third support some torture
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2006, 12:04:46 AM »
Interesting that they didn't include Japan...

Where the police are allowed to beat confessions out of suspects...
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Re: One-third support some torture
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2006, 12:07:29 AM »
I am a bit surprised at India.


I remember Sipowitz.

Do you recall the episode in which it was pretty clear that a mad bomber in custody had left some hostages tied to bombs in an undisclosed location.

Sipowitz dribbled the bombers head on the table till he found out where and went there to save the lives.

Sipowitz will never get promoted very far in the NYPD.

To most of us this is a thought experiment , only a very few will ever be in a situation where tortureing a person will be tempting.

Is espouseing a zero tolerance honest ?

Doing your own thought experiments, I can imagine that most of us can imagine a situation in which the greater good wouold be served by causeing pain to a person.

Would saveing one life be good enough motive , a dozen or a city full?


It is easy to say "none , Never" for us as we sit in our liveing rooms , are we honest with ourselves?

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Re: One-third support some torture
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2006, 12:13:44 AM »
Bill Clinton disagrees with the majority:

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/008312.php