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3DHS / Re: Sunday Morning Reading
« on: April 15, 2007, 02:37:59 AM »
Excellent reading.  If nothing else, people should scroll down and read from "9/11 and The Birth of a Notion", through to the end.

It's a shame that Rosie O'Donnell won't ever read this - or even if she does, she'd just dismiss it.  She's got her mind made up already.

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3DHS / Re: big brother
« on: April 14, 2007, 02:05:48 AM »
You've voiced some very good points, Cro. 

I was listening to a talk show on the Imus incident, and one of the callers - a black man - stated that he hated the fact that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have positioned themselves as the 'go-to' sound bite mouthpieces for the African-American community, and that the media seems so willing to look no further in their zeal to snag readers. The caller was upset that these self-appointed leaders are using their influence and resources to focus on Imus when there are so many other issues that need to be addressed - crime, illiteracy, teen pregnancy, to name a few. 

I've never listened to Imus.  I'm a firm believer in utilizing my power over the remote control and the radio dial.  Imus is an idiot, no doubt...but I'm not comfortable with the notion that censorship is an acceptable means to legislate common sense and decency. 

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3DHS / A true test of tolerance
« on: April 12, 2007, 09:27:31 AM »
This sounds like a good book - has anyone here read it?

Excerpt from Lileks:

Anything else today? Well, how about a book review?

My friend Hugh Hewitt has written a political biography of Mitt Romney, and I can recommend it for one solid reason: this marks the second time in my life I have looked for my name in the index, and found it. Aside from that, I can recommend it on several levels.

I should preface this by saying I’m not a Romney guy. It has nothing to do with his creed. I think his accomplishments are impressive, his public persona solid and direct. I think he is what he seems to be. You could say that’s the case with many other candidates, and I agree; inasmuch as all politicians show us a polished carapace, I think Guiliani and Obama are the Genuine Article as well -  in different ways, of course, but when they smile I don’t see the wires leading back to the Calculating Machine.  Romney has all the hallmarks of a polished robot whose public persona is a buffed and tailored suit, a shell that hides something raw and convoluted. But I never got that impression. There are happy confident rich guys with great family stories, you know.

I just never found him very fascinating on an immediate level. The difference between Rudy and Mitt’s personality, one suspects,  is the difference between wandering around the Louvre with two glasses of red wine under your belt, or being handed a shoebox full of high-res Louvre gift-shop postcards, arranged by artist and date. (Then there’s Fred Thompson, who would nod politely while you described your visit to the museum, then tell you about the picture he has in his study. It’s dogs, playing poker.)

So I was interested in Hugh’s book. What makes him interesting to the author? Romney and Hewitt are not, to say the least, members of the same church, yet Hewitt is emphatically sympathetic to Romney’s candidacy. Since I began the book, Romney’s campaign has continued its attempt to climb out of the slough of despond; the media likes the Rudy – McCain dynamic, the social conservative base that might flock to Mitt seems either indifferent to anyone who can win, or has made a private deal to support Rudy on the half-a-loaf theory. Much of Romney’s 02 has been absorbed by Fred Thompson, who has basic bona fides, a satisfyingly saturnine persona, and some other intangibles. Like, HE’S NOT A MORMON.

Well, it had to be said. But that’s not all of it; Romney’s religion isn’t the main reason his campaign isn’t out front by 10 points. There’s something else at work; could be the YouTube flip-flop problem. But I think I know what it might be. He’s in a hard position: he’s too good to be true, but he’s truly that good.

Let’s step back.

If you’re interested in the upcoming campaign, and wish to enter any political debates with a certain amount of preparation, this book is a brisk and clear rundown of Romney’s private and political life. I had a glancing knowledge of the Salt Lake City Olympics story, but the chapter about Romney’s experience in private industry was news, and suggested – which I’m sure was the point – that Romney is a meritocrat above all. (One of the oft-noted characteristics of the Bush family – loyalty first – is one of my least favorite attributes.)  His evaluations of Romney’s political positions are clear and fair; his analysis of the logistics of the election are typically canny, and the overview of Romney’s “Christmas card-perfect” family will annoy anyone who believes that any real life has be fraught with sixty-eight tons of complex parental issues. We learn about Romney’s experience with the Bainiacs – an interesting look into his private sector experience, but not, I suspect, something that will have much of a role in the Presidential campaign. Green eye-shade conservatives will view it as a comforting plus, social conservatives won’t care much at all, and economic nationalists will seem him as a pawn of Big Capital. In any case, it’s all prologue. What counts are the Mormon Chapters.

That’s the meat of the gist’s pith, after all. You can’t write a book about Romney without writing about his Mormonism, simply because he’d be the first Mormon president. It’s not the same as having a Catholic president; Protestant and Catholic beliefs branched out but attained parallelism over the course of centuries, whereas Mormonism seems to be a diagonal line that intersects with Christianity at a big crucial junction, then heads off in a different direction. The angle is low, but the line still diverges.

Hugh’s book isn’t a defense of Mormon theology. It’s a defense of the Mormons' right to have their beliefs respected in the public sphere.  Hewitt gives two reasons;  religious tolerance is the first, obviously. The second concerns a bright line not yet crossed in the mainstream political arena, and it’s a line I’m sure will be erased in years to come. It’s the line that surrounds an individual’s belief in what some call the divine or the miraculous, and others call Magical Thinking. In short, it’s about the right to believe in something that lies outside the realm of empiricism.

Oh, we can all respect that right. We can all make public proclamations about the sanctity of individual beliefs. And we’ll all qualify those remarks in private, among friends. (Note: nothing I’m saying here reflects personal conversations with Hugh about the matter. Just so we’re clear.) People who have friends of different creeds can josh about the differences, as long as each knows that the each respects the other’s beliefs. But some beliefs are, well, out there; doesn’t it say something about a person if they’re a Raelian, or subscribe to the Church of Joe-Bob Briggs (a splinter group of the Church of Subgenuius, formed in the great Bob Schism Wars of the early part of this century) or pray to a plaster bust of St. Leibowitz? Yes. It does. That’s the problem for many: it does matter.

Privately, anyway. The public realm has different standards, and it should.

Or so we’d like to hope.

It doesn’t matter much to me, because I’m more concerned about the policies the candidate advances, and how well I think they’ll advance them. If Fred Thompson gave a speech about Iran I loved, and I also knew he believed that humans were seeded on earth by lizard aliens who will return in 3030 AD to construct a Dyson-sphere terrarium, I’d still be more interested in how his Iranian policy stacked up against the other candidates. Not to suggest that Mormonism is akin to the space-lizard belief-system or Raelianism or whatever, of course. But you get my point.

The point is made with greater clarity in Hugh’s book, which cautions against putting Belief into the mainstream pundit’s meat-grinder. Because once Faith is a fair target, every aspect of faith will be put under the microscope. If you can dismiss a candidate for his belief in the golden tablets, then transubstantiation is next on the list. You want to snigger about Mormon undergarments? Fine; the next time a Sikh runs for public office, quiz him about the same issue. You want to probe a Mormon for the ways in which their Jesus narrative varies, you’d best do the same to a Muslim candidate. And if you can’t see yourself standing up in a press conference asking a Muslim candidate whether Christians will have a problem with him because he doesn’t think Christ died on the cross, you’d best throttle back your zeal for digging into a Mormon.

I’m not comfortable with all beliefs, but I am comfortable with believers. I am not sympathetic to the tenets of Mormonism. But. Just last week I got a knock on the door on a rainy night, and there they were: two Mormon missionaries. White shirts, black ties. They explained their mission and asked if I’d like to talk. Well, lads, I’m what you call a hard sell. I told them that I appreciated their concern, though, and wished them well.

“Do you know anyone around here who needs some help?” said the shorter, dark-haired one. (The other was tall, which gave them a Napoleon-Pedro vibe.) I said that I didn’t, and they thanked me for my time and they went on their way.

If at that moment I had some sort of domestic emergency that required me to leave the house but also required someone to stay at the house – I don’t know, to watch a scientific experiment or take a cake out the oven (a cake – for the Pope!) – I would have trusted both of them to hold down the fort until I returned, and I know I would have found both of them sitting in the living room when I returned, with nothing in the house out of place or moved to a pocket.

Surely how one lives one’s life is as important as the things the curious things they believe, no?

Anyway. I hadn’t thought much about these matters until I read Hugh’s book, and I expect it will have the same effect on those who have a passing interest in the matter – or for Democrats as well, since the Senate Majority Leader is a Mormon as well.  (If Romney’s fair game, so’s Harry Reid.) If nothing else, the book is a quiet refutation of all that “Christianist” nonsense; it’s a fair and respectful evaluation of a politician who happens to be Mormon from a commentator who happens to be an evangelical Christian, amply sourced, replete with other voices, and laid out with Hugh’s trademark clarity.

Plus, I’m on page 266.

http://www.lileks.com/bleats/index.html

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3DHS / Re: Who's Next to Host ABC's The View -- David Duke?
« on: April 12, 2007, 12:43:25 AM »
I don't think Rossie did anything wrong. All she really ask for is a real investigation.

Larry - a real investigation would, by necessity, be an impartial investigation.  Do Rosie's words indicate that she possesses an open mind?  Or has she already decided the outcome and is seeking validation?

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3DHS / Re: Who's Next to Host ABC's The View -- David Duke?
« on: April 11, 2007, 10:33:09 PM »
A scurrilous attempt at right-wing smears, Missus, but for what reason?

Dang, domer. You do love to assign motive and intent, don't you?

You know, if you truly wanted to know why I posted the article, you could have asked me without inserting your opinion.  I would have gladly answered:  "Because I think Rosie O'Donnell is a no-talent tool.  If her blog wasn't evidence enough, her willingness to join the Conspiracy Lemmings ought to prove it."

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3DHS / Who's Next to Host ABC's The View -- David Duke?
« on: April 11, 2007, 05:26:46 PM »
Who's Next to Host ABC's The View -- David Duke?
Steven Zak
Tue Apr 10, 3:30 PM ET

Deniers of 9/11 and of the Holocaust are two of a kind. It is a given that television networks put profits above pride, but ABC has reached a new low in its sponsorship of Rosie O'Donnell. The daytime talk show host recently joined the world of "truthers" --people who believe that 9/11 was an attack staged by this country's own government.

On ABC's popular The View, O'Donnell lent her expert opinion that it is impossible for the World Trade Center's building 7 "to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved." To say otherwise, she added, "is beyond ignorant." (When she isn't offering instruction on the fine points of structural engineering, O'Donnell entertains by hanging upside-down from a rope.)

If this all sounds like the howling of a rabid dog, O'Donnell isn't alone in the kennel. A recent poll from the Scripps Research Center found that more than a third of Americans believe that 9/11 was an "inside job." Those who actively promote the idea, though, are more than mere laughable loons. They bear resemblance to another particularly virulent conspiracy nut -- the Holocaust denier.

It may be coincidence that O'Donnell's 9/11 denial has manifested itself in such close proximity to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's "Holocaust conference" of last December, but she sounds a lot like many of its participants.

Both profess interest in the pursuit of truth.

Mahammad Ali Ramini, advisor to Ahmadinejad, announced that he would chair a committee to find "the truth on the genocide of Jews."

O'Donnell says that she is merely "trying, as always, for a rigorous truth."

And both profess total objectivity in that pursuit.

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki made an offer to British Prime Minister Tony Blair to send "independent investigators" to visit former Nazi death camps -- people "who are not sympathetic" to the Nazis nor "to the Zionist regime."

"I have begun doing exactly what this country, at its best, allows for me to do," wrote O'Donnell on her blog. "Inquire. Investigate."

Yet for both, "truth" precedes "investigation."

The Holocaust, Ahmadinejad said at the start of the "conference," is a "myth."

The terrorist attack of 9/11, said O'Donnell at the mere outset of her "inquiry," "is impossible."

Both make shameless use of fabricated math and science.

"The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp," said Australian Holocaust denier Frederick Toben, "could be about 2,007. The railroad to the camp did not have enough capacity to transfer large numbers of Jews."

"I do believe that it's the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel," said O'Donnell. "It is physically impossible."

And both cite "studies" or "experts" without actually citing any studies or experts.

"All the studies and research carried out so far have proven that there is no reason to believe that the Holocaust ever occurred," said former Iranian interior minister and Hezbollah cofounder Ali Akbar Mohtashamipour.

"Look at the films, get a physics expert in here from Yale, from Harvard, pick the school," said O'Donnell.

The worlds of deniers O'Donnell and Ahmadinejad intersected more overtly when the former defended the latter's hostage taking of 15 British sailors and Royal Marines who, O'Donnell ruled by fiat, "went into Iranian waters and they were seized by the Iranians." O'Donnell added her expression of sympathy for mass murderers the world over: "Don't fear the terrorists. They're mothers and fathers."

Only one with the most sinister sentiments toward the country that gave her so much for so little could express such warm regard for its most determined enemies. And therein lies the real similarity between Holocaust deniers and 9/11 deniers. The "theories" of both, which could otherwise only be explained as serious psychopathology, are but expressions of venom and bile. The former hate Jews (and, often, the United States). The latter hate the United States (and, often, Jews).

White House press secretary Tony Snow's description of Ahmadinejad's conference as "a platform of hatred," then, applies as well to the current incarnation of The View.

Which leads to this question: If ratings were strong, would ABC allow, say, David Duke to host a show on which he preached his doubts about the Holocaust and his fondness for Nazis? Stay tuned and the answer will soon be revealed -- by whether and how fast the network pulls the plug on O'Donnell.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20070410/cm_rcp/whos_next_to_host_abcs_the_vie;_ylt=AqKYa5_QsZC8tqku40sT1CTMWM0F

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3DHS / Re: What’s Your Permanent Age?
« on: April 01, 2007, 03:05:29 AM »
Somewhere between 18 and 23.....I used to live in the future, but now I'm in the present.

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3DHS / Gasoline prices ready to hit new high in S.F.
« on: March 30, 2007, 11:50:39 PM »
I should have filled up day before yesterday - regular was $3.09 then and it's $3.15 today.  Damn.


San Francisco's surging gasoline prices stand poised to smash their old record of $3.36 for a gallon of regular, perhaps as early as today.

Some stations in the city already have passed that record, set last May.

Although San Francisco's average gasoline price reached $3.34 Thursday, individual stations were charging as much as $3.98.

And yes, that's $3.98 for regular. Want premium? At least one San Francisco station was charging $4.18 per gallon.

The national average for a gallon of regular stands at $2.62, up 48 cents since the end of January. California's average is $3.22, up 70 cents in the same period. No other state average tops $3 per gallon, although Hawaii might pass that mark this weekend.

Blame huge refinery profit margins, falling gasoline production, tensions with Iran and American drivers themselves, who are -- believe it or not -- buying more gas now than they did last year.

Just two weeks ago, it looked like San Francisco and the rest of the country would finally get a break at the pump. Prices for crude oil, gasoline's raw material, were falling. Refineries were almost done with their annual spring maintenance, which temporarily had cut the amount of gas they could produce. Market analysts predicted that the stunning late-winter run-up in prices would soon end. San Francisco's average even dropped for a few days.

Then escalating tensions with Iran forced crude oil prices sharply higher, almost 17 percent in 10 days. Mechanical problems kept hitting refineries throughout the country and in the Bay Area, shrinking the amount of gasoline on the market.

Throughout, refinery profit margins on the West Coast remained almost twice as high as they were last fall, adding to the price drivers pay at the pump. The difference between what West Coast refiners pay for crude and the price they charge for refined products has risen to $37 per barrel from about $20 last fall.

And all the while, drivers kept buying. The country now burns about 1.4 percent more gasoline than it did at the same time last year.

In other words, there's less gasoline available, but drivers are consuming more than before. The companies that sell it enjoy hefty profit margins, and they don't have any incentive to cut prices.

"If you can sell, relatively speaking, the same amount of your product at a higher price than at a lower price, you're probably going to sell at a higher price," said Sean Comey, spokesman for the AAA of Northern California Auto Club.

Consumer advocates charge that refiners are purposely restricting gas supplies as a way to drive up the price. They doubt that all the recent mechanical problems are real or require as much downtime as the companies say. And they note that no government agency polices refining companies to make sure their executives are telling the truth.

"They could well be making more money by not producing gas than they do when they produce gas, which is the scenario we saw in the electricity crisis," said Michael Shames, executive director of the watchdog Utility Consumers' Action Network in San Diego. "When you have a market that's so dysfunctional, you need to have more oversight."

Still, no one has been able to prove manipulation. And many experts say the huge margins for refiners simply represent the dynamics of the market, where supply is squeezed and demand keeps rising.

For all the times California officials have investigated gasoline prices, they have never been able to demonstrate that refiners are gaming the market. The state attorney general's office has one such investigation under way right now but has not reached any conclusions.

"A lot of people have invested a lot of time on this, and a lot of those people have subpoena power," said Tupper Hull, spokesman for the Western States Petroleum Association. "And they haven't found anything wrong."

Yet, even some oil executives acknowledge that California's gasoline market is broken, or at least seriously warped.

The state uses its own unique, pollution-fighting blend of gasoline, made by a limited number of refineries. That limited supply makes the state prone to wild swings in price and is one of the main reasons Californians typically pay more at the pump than other Americans.

San Ramon's Chevron Corp. now controls about one-quarter of the state's refining capacity. CEO David O'Reilly said the country needs to cut the number of specialized gasoline blends in use, which would allow gasoline to flow across state borders much more easily. That, in turn, would minimize price spikes and give California access to more fuel. He has made that argument for years.

"I think it's unfair for people to assert that we're trying to take advantage of something when we've been pointing out, for years, that this is the wrong way to go," O'Reilly said.

But Chevron, like other local refiners, benefits from California's perpetually tight market. And when they talk with Wall Street, the company's executives sometimes boast about how profitable their West Coast operations have become, even though the vast majority of the company's profits come from selling crude oil.

"The Chevron brand continues to garner both increased market share and pricing power in the marketplace," Executive Vice President Mike Wirth told stock analysts at a conference earlier this month.

Chevron plans upgrades to its California refineries that could increase their gasoline production by 840,000 gallons per day. And O'Reilly continues to argue that the government can fix the problem by standardizing gas blends.

"We've advocated for change at a state level," he said. "But advocating and getting the regulations changed are two different things."

How long will the gasoline price increase last? Analysts say that will depend on refinery output and the international politics influencing the price of crude oil.

Refineries elsewhere in the nation are starting to increase the amount of gas they produce, according to the latest federal government figures, but California still lags. As for oil, any further saber-rattling between Iran and the West could easily shove up the price further.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/03/30/MNG50OUPG71.DTL&type=printable

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3DHS / Re: Religious test
« on: March 30, 2007, 01:13:36 AM »
Slapping labels on others can be a tricky business, can't it?  Maybe it would be less confusing if they just used the term 'evangelical Christian' instead of 'Christian' next time.


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3DHS / Re: Richardson to legalize medical marijuana
« on: March 18, 2007, 12:33:55 AM »
"So what if it's risky? It's the right thing to do."

If more politicians - both liberal and conservative - took this stance, we'd all benefit. 

It's a shame that many politicians begin their careers with a true desire to make a difference for the better....but then they quickly discover that  in order to attract backers and votes, they need to become a packaged commodity based on style over substance. Governor Richardson appears to be more concerned about what is best for the people rather than what is best for his own interests, and that attitude is in short supply among our country's politicians.

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3DHS / Re: question about pot
« on: March 15, 2007, 10:04:29 PM »
I was reminded of Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start The Fire".  Here's a site where you can listen to the song along with a flash presentation that illustrates the entire song - you can click on the images and find out more about them. 

Under 'View This Title' choose either View in this window or View in new window.

http://www.ugoplayer.com/music/fire.html

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3DHS / Re: question about pot
« on: March 15, 2007, 07:19:20 PM »
Domer---
One of my sons told me about an episode of South Park (I think).   One of the  characters is urging the people who attended Woodstock to actually DO something.

Slowly I turned....and let him hear what I remembered about the years previous to that. 
Russians are going to bomb us
Nukes in Cuba
Space race, accellerated math
JFK assassination
Touring bomb shelters with my Brownie troop
Duck and cover drills
Civil rights marches, demonstrations, little kids getting sprayed by huge fire hoses and hurt
RFK assassination, MLK assassination
Churches bombed, Freedom Riders killed
RIots, riots
Peace marches/SNCC/ Weathermen/ etc
Friends getting drafted

I told him that a 3 day party in the mud listening to music was not a whole lot after all that.


......We didn't start the fire.....

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3DHS / Re: question about pot
« on: March 14, 2007, 04:39:14 PM »
The type of reaction that kimba described is more associated with smoking weed laced with PCP - the weed alone would typically have a more mellowing effect.  The addition of PCP is documented to frequently induce violent, often psychotic behavior.

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3DHS / Re: Where do you Stand?
« on: March 13, 2007, 02:52:02 PM »
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21

The Political Objective Test
Moderate
You scored 64 Equality, 78 Liberty, and 71 Stability!
Your feel that all three principles are important. You take some interest in politics and definitely have opinions. However those opinions may be formed on a case-by-case basis because you lack an overriding commitment to any of the principles. You may sometimes get confused by complex political issues because you can be persuaded by different arguments. Moderates like yourself are important in mediating between others in a parliamentary democracy. If you get involved in politics then you may well be working alongside Conservatives or Liberals or Socialists depending on your inclinations and circumstances.

World's Smallest Political Quiz
According to your answers, the political description that fits you best is...Libertarian

LIBERTARIANS support maximum liberty in both personal and economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence. Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 80%.
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 80%.

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3DHS / Re: Coulter Said What?
« on: March 04, 2007, 10:12:09 PM »
Quote
This is the crux of the matter. A classic if / then scenario that in my opinion doesn't wash. If this statement is correct then Chris Matthews tacitly approves of Ann Coulter and the liberal/dems in this room tacitly approve of Lanya's hateful remarks. Is that the case?

It comes down to this: who is responsible for the words coming from Ann Coulter's mouth? Unless we subscribe to the groupthink/groupspeak philosophy, then the only person responsible is the one who uttered them.  If Coulter feels she said something that requires an apology, then she knows full well how to get that message across.

We've had this type of discussion before....does the failure to condemn another's speech mean that you condone their position?  My opinion is that it does not.  Please feel free to agree or disagree, as may be the case. 

Or feel free to say nothing at all.

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