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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Amianthus on April 18, 2008, 01:58:10 PM

Title: Concerns raised as government demands universal wiretapping
Post by: Amianthus on April 18, 2008, 01:58:10 PM
Privacy an afterthought.
Darren Pauli (http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/authid;133326908) 17/04/2008 09:47:07

Sweeping reforms will make it easier than ever for law enforcement to intercept communications if amendments to the Telecommunications (Interceptions) Act are agreed upon by a Senate standing committee.

The federal government is pushing a bill to force all telecommunications providers to facilitate lawful data interception across fixed and mobile telephone systems, Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP), Instant Messaging (IM) and chat room discussions.

The standing committee is meeting today to discuss the proposed changes to Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Amendment Bill 2008 (TIA).

The amendments build on previous reforms (http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;100862041) by the then Howard government which required Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to implement wiretapping provisions in VoIP services.

Private organisations will be handed "quasi-police" (http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;100862041) powers under separate government plans (http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1138979225) announced on Monday.

Attorney-General Robert McClelland said business owners will be handed powers to intercept employee e-mails without notice in a bid to prevent cyber-terrorism.

Consumer advocacy groups are outraged by the reforms and have questioned the motives of the government, labelling the move as a blatant invasion of privacy.

NSW Council of Civil Liberties president, Cameron Murphy, said the changes are unnecessary and will inadvertently subject hundreds of people to privacy violations.

"These laws will massively increase the number of interception points available for techniques such as wiretapping," Murphy said.

"Everything from online chatting, to Skype (VoIP) and mobile phone calls will be open to interception."

He believes the changes are being driven by law enforcement which is effectively offloading its work on the private industry.

The reforms also violate the privacy of other parties involved in a monitored communication channel, according to the Council, the Australian Privacy Foundation (APF) and the Electronic Frontiers Association (EFA).

The organisations told Computerworld that NSW law, which allows businesses to intercept employee e-mails with consent, is a breach of the TIA and the Privacy Act. The problem arises from ambiguity in the law which does not stipulate rules for dealing with third party information, and what constitutes consent.

APF board member Roger Clarke called on the government to provide clarity and scope on the new proposals, including what the changes hope to ultimately achieve and who will be affected. "Any employer that acted on the powers of interception (under the NSW bill) are in breach of the TIA and the Privacy Act if they are accessing the information of non-employees," Clarke said.

"The attempts of the Attorney-General's Departments of successive governments to get some changes to the TIA have been torn apart by various agencies because they haven't addressed scope.

"Every time ministers open their mouths on this type of policy, they keep saying something stupid." He said the scope of the changes can be interpreted to apply to all employers, to private organisations with a responsibility to national infrastructure, or to investigators of serious threats against nation infrastructure.

"The last thing we want is private investigators running with enormous powers if an act of terrorism occurs," Clarke said, speaking of McClelland's reference that the employers powers is a counter-terrorism measure.

The APF has argued for years for workplace privacy protection law reform, and for interception to be solely in the hands of trained investigators under the public service framework.

Both Murphy, Clarke and EFA chair Dale Clapperton called for government to document what it sees as problems with the TIA.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;81561031 (http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;81561031)
Title: Re: Concerns raised as government demands universal wiretapping
Post by: Amianthus on April 18, 2008, 02:05:52 PM
BTW, these laws are very similar to those passed under the Clinton administration in the US.

Looks like the rest of the world is trying to catch up.
Title: Re: Concerns raised as government demands universal wiretapping
Post by: fatman on April 18, 2008, 02:48:30 PM
Utterly ridiculous, Orwellian dreams come to fruition.
Title: Re: Concerns raised as government demands universal wiretapping
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on April 18, 2008, 02:53:44 PM
If these laws are 'very similar' to those passed in the Clinton Administration, why do they need more of them?

This is not playing 'catch up' unless what we are catching up to is a Fascist state.

Don't blame this crap on Clinton. He may be responsible for previous crap, but this is Juniorbush crap.
Title: Re: Concerns raised as government demands universal wiretapping
Post by: kimba1 on April 18, 2008, 02:57:02 PM
but isn`t wire tapping labor intensive?
you need round the clock staffing and people to go through the recordings and transcribers.
and it`s no minimun wages jobs and the nature of it require it not be outsourced.
in the long run can the expense be justified?
Title: Re: Concerns raised as government demands universal wiretapping
Post by: Amianthus on April 18, 2008, 03:07:44 PM
If these laws are 'very similar' to those passed in the Clinton Administration, why do they need more of them?

Possibly because laws passed in the US generally do not apply to Australia?

Can I get a "Duh" here?
Title: Re: Concerns raised as government demands universal wiretapping
Post by: Amianthus on April 18, 2008, 03:09:12 PM
Don't blame this crap on Clinton. He may be responsible for previous crap, but this is Juniorbush crap.

Hmmm, so now Bush is responsible for laws passed in Australia as well?

Damn, he must be one of the most powerful presidents ever. I don't think ANY of our previous presidents were able to force the Australian Parliament to pass laws...
Title: Re: Concerns raised as government demands universal wiretapping
Post by: Universe Prince on April 20, 2008, 01:35:55 PM

Looks like the rest of the world is trying to catch up.


U.S.A.-Leader of the (ever less) free world.