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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Lanya on January 11, 2008, 09:20:28 PM

Title: Mysterious crowd stopped Bhutto's car
Post by: Lanya on January 11, 2008, 09:20:28 PM

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/24637.html

Title: Re: Mysterious crowd stopped Bhutto's car
Post by: Michael Tee on January 11, 2008, 10:12:30 PM

If Islamic fanatics had killed Mrs. Bhutto, wouldn't they come forward immediately to claim the credit?  I thought that was their usual M.O.

It could be dissident nationalist Army factions unhappy with Musharraf's subservience to the Americans.  This would explain the anti-American overtones in his most recent declarations of Pakistani sovereignty over its own land.  Maybe he finally got the message.

Title: Re: Mysterious crowd stopped Bhutto's car
Post by: Lanya on January 11, 2008, 10:31:04 PM

It's a new and different twist to the story, but I don't know that I buy it.
There are  people who like to create chaos and profit from it.  I think maybe they decided to do this in Pakistan and reap the wind.   
I don't think Musharraf profits from this, or if he does I can't see it. 

What I took from his latest anti-American message was that he wasn't going to put up with this anymore.   I took it that he thought we had meddled enough and he would stand for no more.   

Title: Re: Mysterious crowd stopped Bhutto's car
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 11, 2008, 11:04:02 PM

Musharrif benefits form Bhutto;'s death, because she was his main viable adversary. He represents military control. She represents civilian control and the dismantling of the huge military apparatus that has run Pakistan since Zia al Haq came to power.

This is why most Pakistanis blame him. Being as they would prefer not to be led by a homocidal jerk that massacres women (a wimpy thing to do pretty much anywhere), they blame Washington. But I don;t think Washington has any motive for this in the current situation.

Title: Re: Mysterious crowd stopped Bhutto's car
Post by: Michael Tee on January 12, 2008, 01:35:06 AM

<<What I took from his latest anti-American message was that he wasn't going to put up with this anymore.   I took it that he thought we had meddled enough and he would stand for no more. >>

Yeah but then you'd have to question the timing.  Puts up with America's shit for six years and only now, after Benazir is whacked, does he get fed up with it?   That's just too much of a coincidence for me to buy into. 

Title: Re: Mysterious crowd stopped Bhutto's car
Post by: Plane on January 13, 2008, 12:20:00 AM

Quote from: Michael Tee on January 11, 2008, 10:12:30 PM

If Islamic fanatics had killed Mrs. Bhutto, wouldn't they come forward immediately to claim the credit?  I thought that was their usual M.O.

I don't think so for months after 9-11 they were saying that the Jews had done it.

Does Mushareiff command suicide bombers ?