The Hunting of the (terrorist) Snark

[Cynthia]

No, I don't think he does. Sirs has listened to his own rhetoric for so long now.......that he's gone WMDdeaf.

I think you're right, despite his assertion that 'Xo is nearly always referencing a WMD that could be launched from Iraq, by Iraq, that would decimate the U.S., as per the Bush administration' (I've long known he feels he has the ability to read minds). I think he's repeated the administration's and his own bullshit for so long that he can no longer believe anything else. To do so would be to admit he was wrong, and complicit in the murders of over 4000 American troops who swore to protect and defend the United States, but instead were ordered to illegally invade another sovereign country simply because our president wanted to be a war president, and because the leader of the other country threatened to kill his pa. But mostly he'd have to admit he was wrong.

Well, Sirs is going to have to face his own music someday, HP. HE will never admit there is a "wrong". That's not a person I, personally want to trust in any debate group or gate. My God, in the political world, is there not  room for misguided calls, and an "opps" once in a while? I guess not. What does this say about politics/politicians? Is there more ego involved, or is there truly a willingness to make the world a better place.

I continue to watch the fiasco that is politics in general, along with the  lack of  " an honest discussion" that is this board specific....I do so with a sort of sorrow as I watch the rope hang em all.

[Plane]

No, I don't think he does. Sirs has listened to his own rhetoric for so long now.......that he's gone WMDdeaf.

I think you're right, despite his assertion that 'Xo is nearly always referencing a WMD that could be launched from Iraq, by Iraq, that would decimate the U.S., as per the Bush administration' (I've long known he feels he has the ability to read minds). I think he's repeated the administration's and his own bullshit for so long that he can no longer believe anything else. To do so would be to admit he was wrong, and complicit in the murders of over 4000 American troops who swore to protect and defend the United States, but instead were ordered to illegally invade another sovereign country simply because our president wanted to be a war president, and because the leader of the other country threatened to kill his pa. But mostly he'd have to admit he was wrong.

If you had to read Saddam Hussein's mind , why would you think he was keeping 500 tonns of Yellowcake in his back yard?

I think reasonable assumptions lead one to the idea that Saddam was waiting for his chance to return to his WMD work that once made him famous.

That was the situation President Bush found himself in back in 2003 he had to make his choice based on the info he had and he could not wait forever to decide,

I still think it very reasonable to think Saddam was planning to get into the WMD business again as soon as he was off the leash.Even with the benefits of hind sight there is no other reason for keeping that Yellowcake , or even keeping all of those specialists on the payroll.

[hnumpah]

What was he supposed to do with it? He couldn't use it; anyone he might want to sell it to could probably never get it out of the country with the restrictions we had imposed; and giving it or selling it to us would have been seen as caving in to us.

He may have been waiting for a chance to use it, but obviously we were never going to give him that chance.

Make all the excuses you want for Bush, he was still wrong.

[BT]

He couldn't use it; anyone he might want to sell it to could probably never get it out of the country with the restrictions we had imposed;

Traffic to Syria was not blockaded prior to the invasion.

[sirs]

No, I don't think he does. Sirs has listened to his own rhetoric for so long now.......that he's gone WMDdeaf.

I think you're right, despite his assertion that 'Xo is nearly always referencing a WMD that could be launched from Iraq, by Iraq, that would decimate the U.S., as per the Bush administration' (I've long known he feels he has the ability to read minds). I think he's repeated the administration's and his own bullshit for so long that he can no longer believe anything else.

LOL.....As opposed to repeating the DNC/MoveOn BS, that despite ZIP quotes in context, that it's always been about an imminent attack with multiple nukes, that Mission Accomplished meant we're done, time to go home, that Saddam was behind 911.  Just not possible for folks like yourself to believe anything else, is it


oy

[Cynthia]

No, I don't think he does. Sirs has listened to his own rhetoric for so long now.......that he's gone WMDdeaf.

I think you're right, despite his assertion that 'Xo is nearly always referencing a WMD that could be launched from Iraq, by Iraq, that would decimate the U.S., as per the Bush administration' (I've long known he feels he has the ability to read minds). I think he's repeated the administration's and his own bullshit for so long that he can no longer believe anything else.

LOL.....As opposed to repeating the DNC/MoveOn BS, that despite ZIP quotes in context, that it's always been about an imminent attack with multiple nukes, that Mission Accomplished meant we're done, time to go home, that Saddam was behind 911.  Just not possible for folks like yourself to believe anything else, is it


oy

Sometimes I wonder if you really read your own posts, Sirs. . . talk about OY.

[sirs]

Boy, I could sure say the same, Cynthia.  Talk about ironic

[Cynthia]

Boy, I could sure say the same, Cynthia.  Talk about ironic

LOL.    Hey, at least I know what I am talking about when I post.

[sirs]

umm.......riiiiiiiight               

[Cynthia]

umm.......riiiiiiiight               

You'll never know how right I am, Sirs. But, of course someone like you has no idea of what goes on in the world of education on the ground floor of PS's. . . .and of course, you would say such a thing. 

I just chuckle.

Go ahead and try to keep up. Yah..ummm right....and all that

D'oh Oy

 

[sirs]

You'll never know how right I am, Sirs. But, of course someone like you has no idea of what goes on in the world of education on the ground floor of PS's. . . .and of course, you would say such a thing.    I just chuckle.  Go ahead and try to keep up. Yah..ummm right....and all that  D'oh Oy

See what I mean?  Do you ever read what you write?  You're absolute right?....based on.....how apparently absolutely right you are?  Damn logic, damn common sense, damn any and all facts to the contrary, you have to be right.  It's stunning how you will decry anyone who dares criticize education and they not be a teacher, but you, never having stepped into a military zone, or have any shred of experience working with military actions, or executive actions, are just .... right.  It's amazing this level of disconnect you're currently displaying, Cynthia.  Really.  That's not an "attack" either, that's just the plain truth, regarding this issue

[Cynthia]

You'll never know how right I am, Sirs. But, of course someone like you has no idea of what goes on in the world of education on the ground floor of PS's. . . .and of course, you would say such a thing.    I just chuckle.  Go ahead and try to keep up. Yah..ummm right....and all that  D'oh Oy

See what I mean?  Do you ever read what you write?  You're absolute right?....based on.....how apparently absolutely right you are?  Damn logic, damn common sense, damn any and all facts to the contrary, you have to be right.  It's stunning how you will decry anyone who dares criticize education and they not be a teacher, but you, never having stepped into a military zone, or have any shred of experience working with military actions, or executive actions, are just .... right.  It's amazing this level of disconnect you're currently displaying, Cynthia.  Really.  That's not an "attack" either, that's just the plain truth, regarding this issue

Sirs, really---- no matter how you spin the constrast of battle field  vs the "other battle field" (the front lines of the public education arena) you still have no idea the truth of either. I do have a truth of the latter "field".


I see you only have experience with helping folks heal  broken bones and such. Hey, maybe you could work at helping the veteran heal from the battles of war, eh? Then we shall see just how much you have to offer in terms of "been there-done that".

[sirs]

Sirs, really---- no matter how you spin the constrast of battle field  vs the "other battle field" (the front lines of the public education arena) you still have no idea the truth of either. I do have a truth of the latter "field".

What truth??  You have DNC propogandized spin and gross distortion of fact is what you "have", as it relates to the war in Iraq.  Now look, it's ok to disagree with the war.  It's ok to think we shouldn't have gone in, in the 1st place.  It's ok to not like Bush.  I have no problem with that, what-so-ever.  But use legitimate reasons to support such a position.  Trying to claim that Bush "lied us into war", while everyone else on this globe simply "got it wrong" is the height of BDS.  I have FACTS on my side, I have INTEL on my side, I have official investigative conclusions on my side.  I have common sense, on my side.  All those combined make coming to a deductive truth, quite easy

I see you only have experience with helping folks heal  broken bones and such. Hey, maybe you could work at helping the veteran heal from the battles of war, eh?

Absolutely.  Though your apparent gross lack of compassion for the veteren stands out a little bit with your effort to take a dig at me

[BT]

Resentment (also called ranklement) is an emotion of anger or bitterness felt repeatedly, as a result of a real or imagined wrong done.

Professor Robert C. Solomon places resentment on the same line continuum with contempt and anger. According to him, the differences between the three emotions are as follows: resentment is directed towards higher-status individuals, anger is directed towards equal-status individuals and contempt is directed towards lower-status individuals. [1]

Resentment will often manifest itself in the following ways:[2]

    * The harbouring of animosity against a person, or group of people, whom the person feels has mistreated them.
    * Unresolved anger over a negative event which occurred in the past.
    * Seething, aching emotional turmoil felt whenever a certain person or event is discussed.
    * The lack of forgiving, the unwillingness to let go and forget.
    * A root of distrust and suspicion when dealing with people or events that brought pain in the past.
    * Unresolved grief, experienced when finding it difficult to accept a loss.
    * A grudge held against a person, or group of people, whom the person feels has kept them from achieving anything.

It can be an emotionally disturbing experience that is being felt again or relived in the mind. When the person feeling resentment is directing the emotion at himself it appears as remorse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resentment

[Cynthia]

Sirs, really---- no matter how you spin the constrast of battle field  vs the "other battle field" (the front lines of the public education arena) you still have no idea the truth of either. I do have a truth of the latter "field".

What truth??  You have DNC propogandized spin and gross distortion of fact is what you "have", as it relates to the war in Iraq.  Now look, it's ok to disagree with the war.  It's ok to think we shouldn't have gone in, in the 1st place.  It's ok to not like Bush.  I have no problem with that, what-so-ever.  But use legitimate reasons to support such a position.  Trying to claim that Bush "lied us into war", while everyone else on this globe simply "got it wrong" is the height of BDS.  I have FACTS on my side, I have INTEL on my side, I have official investigative conclusions on my side.  I have common sense, on my side.  All those combined make coming to a deductive truth, quite easy

I see you only have experience with helping folks heal  broken bones and such. Hey, maybe you could work at helping the veteran heal from the battles of war, eh?

Absolutely.  Though your apparent gross lack of compassion for the veteren stands out a little bit with your effort to take a dig at me

The reason you ask "what truth"? ...you have no idea, Sirs.

You never will. There is a lot more to the reality of teaching than sitting on YOUR chair  pondering.....your spin.