The Hunting of the (terrorist) Snark

[Cynthia]

Brought back, not by popular demand, but by a demand that is long overdue.

We are at a stage in this "war" situation where we have to borrow troops from Iraq to fight in Afghanistan. That is the result of poor planning on the part of the US. ie. Bush and his own team.

Perhaps i misunderstood you. Were you not in favor of fighting the Taliban and Al Queda in Afghanistan? If memory serves Bear and Prince have never had a problem with us being there.

So with calls for a new surge in Afghanistan being heard and implemented i don't foresee any objections from those who disagree with a position in Iraq. Because it is a popular demand from the US population.

True, but, I strongly believe that we should have fought in Afghanistan ONLY.

[BT]

True, but, I strongly believe that we should have fought in Afghanistan ONLY.

You are certainly entitled to that opion. And over time you just might get your wish.

[Xavier_Onassis]

True, but, I strongly believe that we should have fought in Afghanistan ONLY.

You are certainly entitled to that opinion. And over time you just might get your wish.
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Wouldn't this involve the use of a time-travel device?

Unless there is a change in the space-time continuum, having invaded Iraq, we shall ALWAYS have invaded Iraq.

Does the modal auxiliary verb "should" used in the future or present tense have any real meaning with regard to past actions?

I mean, unless time travel is effectuated, I mean.

[sirs]

I think common sense, Xo, produces the context that in time, our troops may only be in Afghanistan         

[Universe Prince]

On the contrary  the course of recent history seems to have proven it quite well.

Not that I can see. Again, we've provided recruitment tools and a training ground. We have not acquired Osama bin Laden. Al-Qaeda still functions and is possibly growing. So, no, that "the Bush plan [...] maximises harm to the organisation" has not been proven at all.

To address the rest of your post, I would only end up repeating myself. And I really don't feel like doing that today.

[Plane]

Brought back, not by popular demand, but by a demand that is long overdue.

We are at a stage in this "war" situation where we have to borrow troops from Iraq to fight in Afghanistan. That is the result of poor planning on the part of the US. ie. Bush and his own team.

Perhaps i misunderstood you. Were you not in favor of fighting the Taliban and Al Queda in Afghanistan? If memory serves Bear and Prince have never had a problem with us being there.

So with calls for a new surge in Afghanistan being heard and implemented i don't foresee any objections from those who disagree with a position in Iraq. Because it is a popular demand from the US population.

True, but, I strongly believe that we should have fought in Afghanistan ONLY.

How would that have worked?

Can we suppose that Al Queda would have stayed in Afganistan while we rounded them all up?

[Plane]

On the contrary  the course of recent history seems to have proven it quite well.

Not that I can see. Again, we've provided recruitment tools and a training ground. We have not acquired Osama bin Laden. Al-Qaeda still functions and is possibly growing. So, no, that "the Bush plan [...] maximises harm to the organisation" has not been proven at all.

To address the rest of your post, I would only end up repeating myself. And I really don't feel like doing that today.

I don't know why you can't see it , the FBI and CIA had success after success going after individuals who were brought to trial , but the concept of law enforcement is a flawed way to conduct a war. Law enforcement worked to reduce the KKK and the Mafia but we controll the territory they haunt already.

[hnumpah]

If memory serves Bear and Prince have never had a problem with us being there.

The only problem I have had with the US having troops in Afghanistan is that our beloved something-or-other-in chief didn't leave enough of them there long enough to finish the job properly. Would have saved a lot of grief if he had.

[Plane]

If memory serves Bear and Prince have never had a problem with us being there.

The only problem I have had with the US having troops in Afghanistan is that our beloved something-or-other-in chief didn't leave enough of them there long enough to finish the job properly. Would have saved a lot of grief if he had.

  What would be the point of chaseing them entirely out of Afganistan?

[Plane]

Local Afghans in the border regions are increasingly concerned about the return of the "Araban" or "Ikhwanis," as Arab fighters are known in the Pashtun language, Williams wrote in a CTC paper. He said there were rumors of hardened Arab fighters from Iraq training Afghan Pashtuns in the previously taboo tactic of suicide bombing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/18/afghanistan-draws-foreign_n_113544.html

Turkey also appears to have emerged as a source of recruits. Williams estimated as many as 100 Turks had made their way to Pakistan to join the fight in Afghanistan.

"The story of Turkish involvement in transnational jihadism is one of the best kept stories of the war on terror," said Williams, who noted that al-Qaida videos posted on YouTube mention Turks engaging in the insurgency. "The local Afghans whom I talked to claim that the Turks and other foreigners are more prone to suicidal assaults than the local Taliban."

[Cynthia]

I think common sense, Xo, produces the context that in time, our troops may only be in Afghanistan         

But, that is not what I said, Sirs. Indeed, I meant that we SHOULD HAVE set forces into Afghanistan from the getgo.

Sure, in time, we will get our way, but too little too late, sadly.

[sirs]

I think common sense, Xo, produces the context that in time, our troops may only be in Afghanistan         

But, that is not what I said, Sirs. Indeed, I meant that we SHOULD HAVE set forces into Afghanistan from the getgo.

Yes, we all know what you said.  Bt simply implied you may still get your wish with troops eventually only being in Afghanistan.  Or do you not want them there either, now?

Sure, in time, we will get our way, but too little too late, sadly.

Well, that's 1 viewpoint.  I personally am glad to see how effective the surge has been...so much so that Obama has had to do a complete 180 in his rhetoric, and had to scrap his original position regarding the surge, from his website.  Gotta love that conviction

[Universe Prince]

I don't know why you can't see it

Because I look at the situation with critical assessment of the facts.

the FBI and CIA had success after success going after individuals who were brought to trial , but the concept of law enforcement is a flawed way to conduct a war.

That presumes that we need to conduct a war and that conducting a war is the most effective method of dealing with terrorists. Neither has been demonstrated to be true.

[Cynthia]

I think common sense, Xo, produces the context that in time, our troops may only be in Afghanistan         

But, that is not what I said, Sirs. Indeed, I meant that we SHOULD HAVE set forces into Afghanistan from the getgo.

Yes, we all know what you said.  Bt simply implied you may still get your wish with troops eventually only being in Afghanistan.  Or do you not want them there either, now?

Sure, in time, we will get our way, but too little too late, sadly.

Well, that's 1 viewpoint.  I personally am glad to see how effective the surge has been...so much so that Obama has had to do a complete 180 in his rhetoric, and had to scrap his original position regarding the surge, from his website.  Gotta love that conviction

"Yes, we all know what you said." I think common sense, Xo, produces the context that in time, our troops may only be in Afghanistan"


First of all, Sirs, who are the "we"zzy Froggies in your pocket?

 You're a bit patronizin', with all due respect.... . ( :(So much for cleaning your slate.)


I personally am glad to see how effective the surge has been...so much so that Obama has had to do a complete 180 in his rhetoric, and had to scrap his original position regarding the surge, from his website.  Gotta love that conviction."

The war should have been focused in the Afghani arena. .....AND--- AND, hey perhaps Obama would have been caught by now.

DO Ya THink??

[BT]

The war should have been focused in the Afghani arena. .....AND--- AND, hey perhaps Obama would have been caught by now.

You meant Osama, I presume. And to capture Osama means going into Pakistan, which i also assume you are advocating.

Then again maybe not. Hard to tell sometimes.